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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: John J Lee <jjl@pobox.com>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Executable size?
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:51:54 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0311121547090.5009-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0311122020240.2865@alice>

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, John J Lee wrote:

> > In addition to a more complicated and complete standard library and
> > bultins, Ocaml also has garbage collection, which is non-trivial to
> > implement.  I wouldn't be surprised if half or more of that 100K of
> > overhead is just the GC.
> 
> Ah, of course!
>

Actually, about a third of it seems to be debugging information, which 
goes away with strip.
 
> > I was using it in the most literal sense- using code more than once, in
> > more than one way.  In general, it's much better to have only one copy of
> > a function, used in two places, than two copies of the function.  The
> [...]
> 
> Got you.  The template explosion problem in C++, eg.
>

I've been trying hard not to badmouth C++ here :-).  
 
> 
> > I was thinking of special cases where the difference of a 100K or 1M or so
> > is the difference between working and not working.  If you are, for
> > example, trying to fit your program on a 512K ROM, Ocaml's overhead might
> > be a problem.
> 
> Or if people are willing to download 100k but not 1M.
>

It would be an exceeding large program- or a delibertly perverse one- 
which managed to use *all* the libraries Ocaml provides.

And speaking as someone who still gets onto the internet via a 56K baud 
modem, download a megabyte isn't that bad.  I routinely get 5K/second on 
downloads, so a megabyte is ~3.5 minutes.  It's a bathroom break, sure, 
but not unreasonable.
 
-- 
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
                                - Gene Spafford 
Brian

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-12 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-12 16:14 John J Lee
2003-11-12 17:33 ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 18:06   ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:31     ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:50       ` John J Lee
2003-11-13  9:10         ` Sven Luther
2003-11-13 13:46           ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 14:28             ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:21   ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 22:53     ` Richard Jones
2003-11-12 23:50       ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 12:48     ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:25       ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:06   ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 18:38     ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 19:04       ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-12 21:29         ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:03       ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-13  4:14         ` Kamil Shakirov
2003-11-13  9:06           ` Richard Jones
2003-11-13  9:18         ` Sven Luther
2003-11-12 18:46     ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:40       ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 20:10         ` Basile Starynkevitch
2003-11-12 20:35         ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 21:51           ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2003-11-12 21:35             ` David Brown
2003-11-12 22:12           ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:32             ` Brian Hurt
2003-11-12 22:53               ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-12 23:35               ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 23:44             ` John J Lee
2003-11-13  0:26               ` Karl Zilles
2003-11-13  1:29                 ` [Caml-list] F-sharp (was: Executable size?) Oleg Trott
2003-11-14  6:04                   ` [Caml-list] float_of_num Christophe Raffalli
2003-11-13 15:43               ` [Caml-list] Executable size? Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 19:58                 ` John J Lee
2003-11-13 20:36                   ` Eric Dahlman
2003-11-13 22:16                     ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 13:41                   ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:13                     ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 18:07                       ` skaller
2003-11-15 13:36                 ` skaller
2003-11-15 15:01                   ` John J Lee
2003-11-15 17:53                     ` skaller
2003-11-13 13:37         ` Florian Hars
2003-11-12 18:05 ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 18:36   ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 19:04     ` Dustin Sallings
2003-11-12 20:17       ` John J Lee
2003-11-12 20:01     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2003-11-13  1:23 ` Nicolas Cannasse
2003-11-15 12:09 ` skaller

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