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From: Walid Taha <taha@cs.rice.edu>
To: Jacques Carette <carette@mcmaster.ca>
Cc: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] partial eval question
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 21:03:54 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0402032103130.17089-100000@boromir.cs.rice.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <002d01c39cc6$1ac80680$1b447182@cas.mcmaster.ca>


Hi Jacques,

Please see my last email in responce to Ben's original email.  MSP in 
MetaOCaml doesn't require any "contortions".

Walid.

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Jacques Carette wrote:

|> If you really want more control over code generation (not forgetting
|> that just writing out what you want by hand is often the simplest
|> option in practice!) then I think C++ templates are a dead end---far
|> better to make the object language the same as the target language,
|> as in MetaOcaml and similar.
|
|If you know what you want, MetaOcaml is great.  If you are
|prototyping/experimenting, then a typeless symbolic language (like Scheme or
|Maple) give you much greater flexibility.  MetaOcaml's contortions to get
|something like:
|
|> pow := proc(x,n::nonnegint) if n=0 then 1 else times(x,pow(x,n-1)) end if
|end proc;
|pow := proc(x, n::nonnegint)
|    if n = 0 then 1 else times(x, pow(x, n - 1)) end if
|end proc
|
|> unapply(pow(x,5), x);
|       x -> times(x, times(x, times(x, times(x, times(x, 1)))))
|
|is really quite burdensome.  Having the freedom of dealing with 'open' terms
|as first-class citizens is really very powerful, if somewhat dangerous.
|
|I have found Thiemann's PGG as the 'front end', coupled with
|Scheme-to-YourFavoriteLanguage translation to be quite effective PE
|strategy, at least when more basic 'symbolic computation' is not enough.
|
|Jacques
|
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-04  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-27  1:41 Ben Kavanagh
2003-10-27  7:14 ` Damien
2003-10-27 15:39   ` William Chesters
2003-10-27 18:50     ` Andrew Lenharth
2003-10-27 19:12       ` William Chesters
2003-10-27 20:08         ` Jacques Carette
2004-02-04  3:03           ` Walid Taha [this message]
2003-10-27 22:11         ` Andrew Lenharth
2004-02-04  2:59       ` Walid Taha
2004-02-04  5:53         ` Andrew Lenharth
2004-02-05 21:29           ` Walid Taha
2003-10-27 19:17     ` Yann Regis-Gianas
2003-10-28 10:46       ` William Chesters
2004-02-04  2:22         ` Walid Taha
2004-02-04  2:56     ` Walid Taha
2003-10-28 15:09   ` Dmitry Lomov
2003-10-27 15:16 ` Vincent Balat [prof Moggi team]
2004-02-04  2:51 ` Walid Taha
2004-02-04 10:26   ` Ben Kavanagh
2004-02-04 10:32   ` Ben Kavanagh
2004-02-05 21:11     ` Walid Taha

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