From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id AAA19196; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:54:24 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19387 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:54:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail3.epfl.ch (mail3.epfl.ch [128.178.50.19]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i3NMsMjq005755 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:54:22 +0200 Received: (qmail 28067 invoked by uid 107); 23 Apr 2004 22:54:22 -0000 Received: from mailav2.epfl.ch (HELO mailav2) (128.178.50.191) by mail3.epfl.ch with SMTP; 23 Apr 2004 22:54:22 -0000 Received: From mail0.epfl.ch ([128.178.50.57]) by mailav2 (WebShield SMTP v4.5 MR1a P0803.345); id 1082760921386; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:55:21 +0200 Received: from lcmpc4.epfl.ch (128.178.8.59) by mail0.epfl.ch (AngelmatoPhylax SMTP proxy); Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:54:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:54:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Henri DF X-X-Sender: henridf@lcmpc4.epfl.ch To: John Goerzen cc: Maxence Guesdon , Subject: Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] The Missing Library In-Reply-To: <20040423213325.GF6783@excelhustler.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Miltered: at nez-perce by Joe's j-chkmail ("http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr")! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 maxence:01 2004:99 rephrase:01 'some':99 cough:01 extlib:01 bug:01 faq:01 faq:01 beginner's:01 beginners:01 bin:01 caml-bugs:01 ocaml:01 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk ok this thread is way too long already, and (as maxence pointed out), is basically the same old rehash of the same old thing, but i will still add 2c... > On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 04:10:03PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Let me expand on this a bit. It is clear that people are unsatisfied > with the quality of the standard library and that others have been able i would rephrase that as "that *some* [1] people are unsatisfied, where *some* might be a very small number". and we shouldn't forget that the boring, satisfied users obviously (such as yours truly) do not have much to complain about and so might well be the silent majority on this list.. [1] where 'some' might be a very small number henri > to provide useful features (*cough* IPv6 and other basic Unix calls) far > sooner than Inria has. Why are you oppsed to this? > > There are some things that will work fine with a system such as GODI > once it gets a little more mature. My ConfigParser module, for > instance, has no need to be in the standard library (OTOH, there's no > need for it to be outside it either, but I don't care either way on that > if GODI continues improving.) > > But what about the C Extlib's expanded support for sockets and IPv6? I > can either use its support, or the standard Unix module. If I choose > the standard Unix module, I have compatibility with other OCaml code > written by others, but I lack IPv6. If I choose the C Extlib module, > all my I/O is tied to that module. > > A plethora of mutually-incompatible modules that duplicate and extend > standard library features is in nobody's interest. The result will be > an irrelevant standard library and a fragmented development community. > > -- John > > ------------------- > To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners