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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: Nicolas Janin <Ninja40@ifrance.com>
Cc: "Nicolas FRANCOIS (AKA El Bofo)" <nicolas.francois@free.fr>,
	<caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:57:13 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0406191342360.4305-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <008401c455f6$51c5f4a0$9a823951@Pif>

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Nicolas Janin wrote:

> Thinking about it a little more, the good thing with LOC count is, as I've
> read somewhere else, in large softwares (say > 50,000 LOC), LOC count was
> quite a fairly good measure of the size of a project in terms of spent
> resources. In other words, according to surveys, the effort involved (as
> measured in man-months) was fairly proportional to the LOC count, which is
> why LOC count still prevails as a measurement of a software project.
> However there has never been any survey measuring code size in terms of
> zipped kilobytes unfortunately, although one might suspect the correlation
> between this measurement and the effort involved would be stronger than with
> LOC count.

I beleive it was Fred Brooks who first opinioned that programmers produced
about the same number of working lines of code per month no matter what
the language was- and that therefor higher level languages (by which he
meant Fortran and PL/1) that did more work in fewer lines of code were
more productive than lower level languages (by which he meant assembly 
language).

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Brian

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2004-06-19 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-17 18:05 Brian Hurt
2004-06-18  1:18 ` Yaron Minsky
2004-06-18  9:37   ` Sebastien Ferre
2004-06-18 15:45     ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-18 21:39       ` Eray Ozkural
2004-06-18  6:09 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-18  7:56 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-18  8:59   ` skaller
2004-06-18  9:57     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-18 10:48       ` Implementing DSLs in OCaml/CamlP4 (was: Re: [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived) Richard Jones
2004-06-18 12:32         ` Walid Taha
2004-06-18 15:38   ` [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived Brian Hurt
2004-06-18 17:07     ` David Brown
2004-06-19  0:26   ` Nicolas FRANCOIS
2004-06-19  9:04     ` [Caml-list] Benchmark suggestion (Was: Programming Language Shootout) Wolfgang Müller
2004-06-19 10:54       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-19 19:38       ` [Caml-list] Benchmark suggestion Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-19 20:08         ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-19 20:16         ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-06-20 11:24           ` [Caml-list] Evangelism Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-19 11:18     ` [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-19 11:56     ` Nicolas Janin
2004-06-19 12:51       ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-06-19 19:46         ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-19 20:19           ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-19 12:09     ` Nicolas Janin
2004-06-19 12:48       ` John Hughes
2004-06-19 18:57       ` Brian Hurt [this message]

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