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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: "Brandon J. Van Every" <vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>
Cc: caml <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Benchmark suggestion
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:08:07 -0500 (CDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0406191456400.4305-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <OOEALCJCKEBJBIJHCNJDGEBAHEAB.vanevery@indiegamedesign.com>

On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Brandon J. Van Every wrote:

> I'd say the same for picking languages.  I have a lot of instincts about
> language evangelism now, having looked at so many of them in the past
> year.

The problem is that most people can't differentiate between their
instincts and their prejudices.  For example, most people's instinct is
that C++ should be as fast as C.  But the one measurement I've seen says
otherwise.  Show me another measurement, and I'll admit the issue is open
to debate.  But until you do, my response to all the logic and reasoning
in the world will still be "and yet it moves."  One measurement- no matter
how flawed and questionable- is worth a million opinions.  Otherwise we're
just stumbling around Plato's cave.

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                                - Gene Spafford 
Brian

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-19 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-17 18:05 [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived Brian Hurt
2004-06-18  1:18 ` Yaron Minsky
2004-06-18  9:37   ` Sebastien Ferre
2004-06-18 15:45     ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-18 21:39       ` Eray Ozkural
2004-06-18  6:09 ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-18  7:56 ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-18  8:59   ` skaller
2004-06-18  9:57     ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-18 10:48       ` Implementing DSLs in OCaml/CamlP4 (was: Re: [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived) Richard Jones
2004-06-18 12:32         ` Walid Taha
2004-06-18 15:38   ` [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived Brian Hurt
2004-06-18 17:07     ` David Brown
2004-06-19  0:26   ` Nicolas FRANCOIS
2004-06-19  9:04     ` [Caml-list] Benchmark suggestion (Was: Programming Language Shootout) Wolfgang Müller
2004-06-19 10:54       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-19 19:38       ` [Caml-list] Benchmark suggestion Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-19 20:08         ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2004-06-19 20:16         ` Wolfgang Müller
2004-06-20 11:24           ` [Caml-list] Evangelism Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-19 11:18     ` [Caml-list] Great Programming Language Shootout Revived Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-06-19 11:56     ` Nicolas Janin
2004-06-19 12:51       ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2004-06-19 19:46         ` Brandon J. Van Every
2004-06-19 20:19           ` Brian Hurt
2004-06-19 12:09     ` Nicolas Janin
2004-06-19 12:48       ` John Hughes
2004-06-19 18:57       ` Brian Hurt

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