From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id WAA24231; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:02:30 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA24167 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:02:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from herd.plethora.net (herd.plethora.net [205.166.146.1]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i5JK2RSH031165 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:02:28 +0200 Received: from bhurt.plethora.net (bhurt.plethora.net [205.166.146.49]) by herd.plethora.net (8.11.6/8.10.1) with ESMTP id i5JK2Ki17995; Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:02:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 15:08:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian Hurt X-X-Sender: bhurt@localhost.localdomain To: "Brandon J. Van Every" cc: caml Subject: RE: [Caml-list] Benchmark suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 40D49BD3.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 brandon:99 stumbling:01 cave:99 million:98 benchmark:02 reasoning:02 wrote:03 redirect:95 suggestion:06 i'd:06 brian:06 brian:06 languages:06 source:07 Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Brandon J. Van Every wrote: > I'd say the same for picking languages. I have a lot of instincts about > language evangelism now, having looked at so many of them in the past > year. The problem is that most people can't differentiate between their instincts and their prejudices. For example, most people's instinct is that C++ should be as fast as C. But the one measurement I've seen says otherwise. Show me another measurement, and I'll admit the issue is open to debate. But until you do, my response to all the logic and reasoning in the world will still be "and yet it moves." One measurement- no matter how flawed and questionable- is worth a million opinions. Otherwise we're just stumbling around Plato's cave. -- "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford Brian ------------------- To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners