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* [Caml-list] Y combinator and type-checking
@ 2004-07-02 17:36 Martin Berger
  2004-07-02 17:54 ` Brian Hurt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Martin Berger @ 2004-07-02 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The Caml Trade

i just noticed something confusing: consider an implementation of the
Y combinator (for a CBV language):

     let rec y f = f (fun x -> (y f) x );;

let's see what ocaml says about this definition.

     # let rec y f = f (fun x -> (y f) x );;
     val y : (('a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b = <fun>

now i annotate the definition above with the types just
inferred:

     let rec y  ( f : ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b )
            : ( ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b
       = f (fun x -> (y f) x );;

suddenly, ocaml complains:

     #let rec y  ( f : ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b )
              : ( ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b
         = f (fun x -> (y f) x );;

     This expression has type 'a -> 'b -> 'c but is here used with
     type (('a -> 'b -> 'c) -> 'a -> 'b -> 'c) -> 'a -> 'b -> 'c


why would annotating a program with seemingly correct types render
a program untypable? this is my main question.

here's a related observation: if we run the last program under "ocaml
-rectypes" instead of just "ocaml" we get

     # let rec y  ( f : ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b )
              : ( ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b
         = f (fun x -> (y f) x );;
     val y :
     (((('a -> ('a -> 'b as 'b)) -> 'a -> 'b as 'a) -> 'b) -> 'a
     -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b = <fun>

so now the typechecker gives a thumbs-up, but the inferred and annotated
types differ. why?

I hope this is not a well-known beginners issue!

martin

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* Re: [Caml-list] Y combinator and type-checking
  2004-07-02 17:36 [Caml-list] Y combinator and type-checking Martin Berger
@ 2004-07-02 17:54 ` Brian Hurt
  2004-07-06 23:24   ` [Caml-list] Why type infenere enter infinte loop here? Andy Yang
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Brian Hurt @ 2004-07-02 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Berger; +Cc: The Caml Trade

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Martin Berger wrote:

> now i annotate the definition above with the types just
> inferred:
> 
>      let rec y  ( f : ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b )
>             : ( ( 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b ) -> 'a -> 'b
>        = f (fun x -> (y f) x );;

This is where your mistake is.  Don't duplicate the type of f.  Instead, 
you should have done:

let rec y (f : ('a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b) : 'a -> 'b = f (fun x -> (y f) x);;

And now it works:
$ ocaml
        Objective Caml version 3.07
 
# let rec y (f : ('a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b) : 'a -> 'b = f (fun x -> (y f) 
x);;
val y : (('a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b = <fun>
#

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* [Caml-list] Why type infenere enter infinte loop here?
  2004-07-02 17:54 ` Brian Hurt
@ 2004-07-06 23:24   ` Andy Yang
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Andy Yang @ 2004-07-06 23:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: caml-list

Hi, all

I am relatively new in Ocaml. Perhaps this problem is
trivial. With the following interactive process, ocaml
cannot give out f2's type. Could you tell me why it
cannot?
                                                      
                         
# let rec y f = f (fun x ->(y f) x);;
val y : (('a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b = <fun>
# let g h x = h x;;
val g : ('a -> 'b) -> 'a -> 'b = <fun>
# let f1 = y g;;
val f1 : '_a -> 'b = <fun>
# let k x = x * x + 1;;
val k : int -> int = <fun>
# let f2 = f1 k;;

Thanks a lot!

Andy


		
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