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From: brogoff <brogoff@speakeasy.net>
To: Caml List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:46:57 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0410110935200.20927@shell2.speakeasy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00F89380-1BA2-11D9-B4CE-000A958FF2FE@wetware.com>

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, james woodyatt wrote:
> On 11 Oct 2004, at 06:38, Christophe Raffalli wrote:
> > Jean-Christophe Filliatre wrote [quite sensibly]:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >> This shouldn't be advised, and not even posted on this list.
> >
> > And how do you write a tail recursive map doing only one structure
> > traversal (which is important with the penalty for memory access) on
> > immutable list without the Obj module ?
>
> By using a more appropriate data structure, e.g. a lazy list.  It's a
> pay-me-now-or-pay-me-later sort of game you're playing here.

Count me among those entirely unswayed by this.

You could also respectfully request that the implementors provide a safe
way to get this well known optimization WITHOUT having to resort to Obj
usage, and, until it is provided, use the safe solution provided a few times
already (and used in ExtLib I believe).

When I asked one of the implementors about this, I received the response that
this would be nice to have but not at the head of the queue in terms of
upcoming desireable features. That seems like a reasonable response, considering
that there are a number of not so bad workarounds, including use of Obj. I'd
rather have GCaml extensions sooner anyways...

I think Clean now provides some solution for the tail recursion modulo cons
stuff. Anyone know other language/implementations which do?

-- Brian

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-11 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-08 13:20 [Caml-list] Recursive lists Luca Pascali
2004-10-08 13:31 ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 14:32   ` skaller
2004-10-08 14:42   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 15:43     ` David Brown
2004-10-08 17:19       ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 23:29         ` skaller
2004-10-09  8:35           ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-09  9:07             ` skaller
2004-10-09  8:32         ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 17:18     ` Wolfgang Lux
2004-10-11  0:44   ` Brian Hurt
2004-10-11  6:32     ` William Lovas
2004-10-11  6:52       ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2004-10-13 11:29         ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-13 11:22       ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11  9:04     ` Keith Wansbrough
2004-10-08 14:05 ` Sébastien Furic
2004-10-08 14:44   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-08 15:09     ` Jon Harrop
2004-10-08 15:13   ` james woodyatt
2004-10-08 14:26 ` sejourne_kevin
2004-10-08 18:28   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11  8:01     ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-10-11  9:20       ` Diego Olivier Fernandez Pons
2004-10-11 13:38       ` [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists) Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-11 13:49         ` [Caml-list] " Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-11 15:33         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2004-10-11 16:09           ` Richard Jones
2004-10-11 16:40           ` [Caml-list] About Obj Yamagata Yoriyuki
2004-10-13 11:59             ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-11 16:24         ` [Caml-list] About Obj (was Recursive lists) james woodyatt
2004-10-11 16:46           ` brogoff [this message]
2004-10-11 17:24             ` james woodyatt
2004-10-12  0:19               ` skaller
2004-10-20 22:10             ` Greg K
2004-10-12 15:19           ` Christophe Raffalli
2004-10-13 11:42           ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-13 21:19             ` brogoff
2004-10-14  9:52               ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-10-14 17:38                 ` brogoff
2004-10-15  8:22               ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-15 17:02                 ` brogoff
2004-10-17 13:42                   ` Alex Baretta
2004-10-12  6:17       ` [Caml-list] Recursive lists sejourne_kevin

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