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From: brogoff <brogoff@speakeasy.net>
To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:32:15 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0605201104100.20411@shell2.speakeasy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605192103250.10710@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 19 May 2006, Brian Hurt wrote:
> On Fri, 19 May 2006, Jon Harrop wrote:
>
> > Agreed. Should OCaml's successor have extensible arrays with 64-bit lengths
> > and strings as char arrays?

Strings are random access character collections, so under the hood they might
be arrays, but I think mutable strings as the default string are a mistake.
One can imagine other representations for strings, like ropes. I'd like a
language to allow many different underlying string representations.

Extensible arrays are useful, but they're slower than fixed sized arrays, so
it would be best to provide both.

It would be better if there were no special behavior for float arrays. For
performance, monomorphic  FloatArray or even Float32Array, Float64Array,
etc., would be fine with me. And so would the same approach for strings
with different character types. It would get mildly annoying without
overloading, but maybe that would prompt the language designers to address
that issue.

> We I designing a language today, I'd have 63-bit array lengths- of course,
> I'd do it by not bothering to support 32-bit systems...

That would, even today, dramatically reduce the number of potential users
of your language.

> As for strings, I'd be inclined to make them immutable-

I strongly agree with that.

> the correct way to manipulate strings is with regular expressions.

But definitely not with that. REs have their place in the toolbox though.

-- Brian


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-20 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-15 18:12 akalin
2006-05-15 18:22 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2006-05-15 20:32 ` Damien Doligez
2006-05-15 21:27   ` akalin
2006-05-15 22:51 ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-16  0:48 ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-16  9:57   ` Damien Doligez
2006-05-16 15:10     ` Markus Mottl
2006-05-16  8:01 ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-16  8:20   ` Nicolas Cannasse
2006-05-19 17:13     ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-19  5:57   ` Frederick Akalin
2006-05-19  6:21     ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 12:15     ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-19 19:36       ` akalin
2006-05-19 20:17         ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 16:28     ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-19 20:08       ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-19 21:26       ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-20  1:06         ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20 18:32           ` brogoff [this message]
2006-05-20 21:29             ` immutable strings II ([Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit) Oliver Bandel
2006-05-22 22:09               ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-20 21:11           ` immutable strings (Re: [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2006-05-25  4:32             ` immutable strings (Re: " Stefan Monnier
2006-05-25  5:56               ` [Caml-list] " Martin Jambon
2006-05-25  7:23                 ` j h woodyatt
2006-05-25 10:22                   ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-25 19:28                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-25 11:14                 ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-25 19:42                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-26  6:51                   ` Alain Frisch
2006-05-25 17:31                 ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-25 19:54                   ` Martin Jambon
2006-05-25 11:18               ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-25 17:34                 ` Aleksey Nogin
2006-05-25 18:44                   ` Tom
2006-05-25 23:00                     ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-25 23:15                       ` Martin Jambon
2006-05-20  0:57       ` [Caml-list] Array 4 MB size limit Brian Hurt
2006-05-20  1:17         ` Frederick Akalin
2006-05-20  1:52           ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20  9:08             ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 10:12               ` skaller
2006-05-20 11:06                 ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 12:02                   ` skaller
2006-05-20 21:42                 ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  1:24                   ` skaller
2006-05-21 14:10                     ` Oliver Bandel
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605200847530.10710@localhost.localdomain>
2006-05-20 19:52                 ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 21:45                   ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  9:26           ` Richard Jones
     [not found]             ` <5CE30707-5DCE-4A22-970E-A49C36F9C901@akalin.cx>
2006-05-22 10:40               ` Richard Jones
2006-05-20 10:51         ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-20 14:22           ` Brian Hurt
2006-05-20 18:41             ` j h woodyatt
2006-05-20 19:37               ` Jon Harrop
2006-05-20 20:47             ` Jozef Kosoru
2006-05-26 18:34             ` Ken Rose
2006-05-20 22:07           ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-20 15:15         ` Don Syme
2006-05-20 22:15           ` Oliver Bandel
2006-05-21  1:25             ` skaller

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