From: brogoff <brogoff@speakeasy.net>
To: Caml-list List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] If OCaml were a car
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:22:56 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0708190911130.22029@shell4.speakeasy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200708191443.l7JEhEQ8007374@psi-phi.mit.edu>
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007, John Carr wrote:
> > Maybe I ride this car too often to realize (or I'm dumb) but I don't
> > get the joke about controls.
>
> OCaml has a badly designed syntax processed by a badly implemented
> parser feeding into a backend that generates poor error messages.
> All this makes the language hard to use. Anybody else learn C
> using pcc on Unix?
I'm not a fan of the current syntax or error handling either. What's the
way out? Revised didn't catch on widely, though it fixes a few of the
syntactic flaws. Now it appears that Revised will fracture into two
streams, one with camlp4 and the other with camlp5. That isn't a good
sign.
One of the better compilers I used for syntactic error messages was
GNAT, the free Ada 95 one, and the parser was hand coded recursive
descent (Ada's provided grammars are NOT even close to LL(1), either)
and the diagnostics were superb.
-- Brian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-19 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-18 19:21 Richard Jones
2007-08-18 20:24 ` [Caml-list] " Jeff Meister
2007-08-18 21:32 ` Michael Vanier
2007-08-19 11:50 ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-19 11:59 ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-08-22 5:50 ` Luca de Alfaro
2007-08-22 8:13 ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-22 9:20 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-08-24 2:54 ` Nathaniel Gray
2007-08-25 19:45 ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-19 14:43 ` John Carr
2007-08-19 16:22 ` brogoff [this message]
2007-08-19 17:07 ` Richard Jones
2007-08-19 17:19 ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-08-22 6:04 ` Luca de Alfaro
2007-08-19 20:51 ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-08-21 8:05 ` David Allsopp
2007-08-21 18:33 ` Richard Jones
2007-08-19 20:30 ` Tom
2007-08-19 21:45 ` skaller
2007-08-20 3:37 ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-20 6:26 ` skaller
2007-08-20 10:00 ` Joerg van den Hoff
2007-08-21 12:03 ` Florian Hars
2007-08-20 6:54 ` skaller
2007-08-20 19:54 ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-20 20:27 ` David Allsopp
2007-08-20 20:50 ` Ulf Wiger (TN/EAB)
2007-08-21 10:56 ` Joerg van den Hoff
2007-08-20 21:13 ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-21 0:47 ` skaller
2007-08-21 9:51 ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-21 10:30 ` skaller
2007-08-21 18:57 ` Richard Jones
2007-08-22 2:49 ` skaller
2007-08-22 11:33 ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-08-21 14:46 ` Business Adoption of Ocaml [was Re: [Caml-list] If OCaml were a car] Robert Fischer
2007-08-21 15:09 ` Brian Hurt
2007-08-21 15:48 ` [Caml-list] If OCaml were a car brogoff
2007-08-19 18:15 [caml-list] " Mike Lin
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