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From: brogoff <brogoff@speakeasy.net>
To: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Oliver Bandel <oliver@first.in-berlin.de>,
	Caml-list List <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] If OCaml were a car
Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:48:03 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0708210836450.9505@shell2.speakeasy.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1187657274.18344.9.camel@rosella.wigram>

On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, skaller wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 21:54 +0200, Oliver Bandel wrote:
>
> > Compared to that the discussions on OCaml's defficiencies are
> > incomprehensible to me.

Since we're dealing with analogies, you could say Perl is like some
hideous disfigured mutant leper. Really, who is going to notice a
few warts on that? OCaml is a puclchritudinous visage pocked with
some blemishes.

> Unfortunately not so. The syntax is only a minor issue IMHO.

Minor for you, but for less expert programmers, or those new to or
infrequent OCaml users, they weight the decision "OCaml or Other"
in the wrong direction.

> There are a number of other annoyances. But the major issues are:
>
> (1.a) lack of dynamic loading (of native code)
>     -- hopefully to be fixed in 3.11
>
> (1.b) lack of multi-processing
>
> (2.a) interoperability
>     -- with C libraries
>     -- with .NET libraries (F# isn't Ocaml)
>
> (2.b) refusal of Inria team to provide a more complete library
>
> (3) lack of ISO or ECMA standardisation
>
> We who use Ocaml are patient (fixes 1),
> creative (fixes 2), and trusting (fixes 3),
> which are three properties industry does not have.

Note that none of your issues are about the language itself, except
(1.b).

Different industries have different priorities, and a few of your
annoyances are  of no concern to me, as I imagine some of mine don't
bother you.

-- Brian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-21 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-18 19:21 Richard Jones
2007-08-18 20:24 ` [Caml-list] " Jeff Meister
2007-08-18 21:32   ` Michael Vanier
2007-08-19 11:50     ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-08-19 11:59       ` Erik de Castro Lopo
2007-08-22  5:50         ` Luca de Alfaro
2007-08-22  8:13           ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-22  9:20             ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-08-24  2:54           ` Nathaniel Gray
2007-08-25 19:45             ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-19 14:43       ` John Carr
2007-08-19 16:22         ` brogoff
2007-08-19 17:07         ` Richard Jones
2007-08-19 17:19           ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2007-08-22  6:04             ` Luca de Alfaro
2007-08-19 20:51           ` Vincent Hanquez
2007-08-21  8:05           ` David Allsopp
2007-08-21 18:33             ` Richard Jones
2007-08-19 20:30         ` Tom
2007-08-19 21:45           ` skaller
2007-08-20  3:37             ` Jon Harrop
2007-08-20  6:26               ` skaller
2007-08-20 10:00                 ` Joerg van den Hoff
2007-08-21 12:03                   ` Florian Hars
2007-08-20  6:54               ` skaller
2007-08-20 19:54       ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-20 20:27         ` David Allsopp
2007-08-20 20:50           ` Ulf Wiger (TN/EAB)
2007-08-21 10:56             ` Joerg van den Hoff
2007-08-20 21:13           ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-21  0:47         ` skaller
2007-08-21  9:51           ` Oliver Bandel
2007-08-21 10:30             ` skaller
2007-08-21 18:57               ` Richard Jones
2007-08-22  2:49                 ` skaller
2007-08-22 11:33                   ` Thomas Fischbacher
2007-08-21 14:46             ` Business Adoption of Ocaml [was Re: [Caml-list] If OCaml were a car] Robert Fischer
2007-08-21 15:09               ` Brian Hurt
2007-08-21 15:48           ` brogoff [this message]
2007-08-19 18:15 [caml-list] If OCaml were a car Mike Lin

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