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From: Vitaly Lugovsky <vsl@ontil.ihep.su>
To: Martin Berger <martinb@dcs.qmul.ac.uk>
Cc: The Trade <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:42:36 +0300 (MSK)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58L.0401291840190.4125@ontil.ihep.su> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4018E282.2040404@dcs.qmul.ac.uk>

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004, Martin Berger wrote:

> >  You may want to try my mpassing library, which now lacks the
> > sequental orthodox unixish message queue, but it would be easy to
> > implement (going to do it soon). I'm using it heavily in a
> > distributed calculations as well as in a massive agent models and
> > as a simple way to program "components", and I'm quite happy I
> > don't ever met in OCaml any of the most common concurrncy bugs
> > I enjoyed with Java and C++.
>
> i wonder why. ocaml essentially offers the same approaches to
> concurrency as do the relevant java or C/C++ libraries. as far
> as i can see, there's nothing in Ocaml's approach to shared
> memory concurrency that would prevent deadlocks or lack of
> mutual exclusion,

 Nothing? Did you forget about the possibility to code without
side effects?

> and there's nothing that prevents the usual
> problems with message passing, like lack of liveness. you do
> have more expressive types in Ocaml, but that is orthogonal to
> concurrency.

 Right. But it's much easier to implement a quite stable
environment for message passing, which will remain stable until
you're following some quite simple rules.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-29 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-27  6:32 [Caml-list] ocaml killer Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27  8:56 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-27  9:43   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 18:32     ` Shawn Wagner
2004-01-28  4:38       ` skaller
2004-01-28  5:30         ` james woodyatt
     [not found]   ` <40168498.6070708@tfb.com>
2004-01-27 19:10     ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-28 13:29       ` David Fox
2004-01-28 15:12         ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-27  9:41 ` Alexander Danilov
2004-01-27  9:57   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-27 16:43     ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-27 18:19       ` David Fox
2004-01-27 18:47       ` Richard Jones
2004-01-27 19:29         ` Eric Stokes
2004-01-28 13:30 ` Eray Ozkural
2004-01-28 23:26 ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-28 23:47   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29  0:00     ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:04       ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:11       ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29  0:34         ` Chet Murthy
2004-01-29  0:47           ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer' Matt Gushee
2004-01-29  8:52           ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 16:20             ` fancy types (was Re: [Caml-list] ocaml killer) William Lovas
2004-01-29 17:13               ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:26                 ` Benedikt Grundmann
2004-01-29 17:17               ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-29 17:41                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 19:18                   ` William Lovas
2004-01-30 10:36                     ` Thomas Fischbacher
2004-01-31  3:39                       ` William Lovas
2004-02-01  2:11                         ` Vasile Rotaru
2004-02-02 11:08                           ` Florian Hars
2004-01-29 18:33                 ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 17:53         ` [Caml-list] ocaml killer skaller
2004-01-29  5:20     ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-29  6:36   ` Alexander Epifanov
2004-01-29  8:53   ` [Caml-list] ocaml and concurrency james woodyatt
2004-01-29  9:46     ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-01-29 10:37       ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 11:51         ` Michael Hicks
2004-01-29 12:20         ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 12:43           ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 15:42         ` Vitaly Lugovsky [this message]
2004-01-29 16:11           ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 16:56             ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 17:19               ` james woodyatt
2004-01-29 17:43               ` Martin Berger
2004-01-29 17:54                 ` Andreas Rossberg
2004-01-29 18:08                   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30  0:19                   ` Lauri Alanko
2004-01-29 19:37                 ` skaller
2004-01-30  0:05                   ` Martin Berger
2004-01-30  6:52                     ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30  8:53                       ` Issac Trotts
2004-01-30 20:45                       ` skaller
2004-01-31  6:29                         ` Brian Hurt
2004-01-30 20:12                     ` skaller
2004-01-29 18:35         ` skaller
2004-01-29  9:56     ` Alex Baretta
2004-01-29 18:26     ` skaller

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