From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA73D45F for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA5LqF2L009831 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:15 +0100 Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA26463 for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from mail.physik.uni-muenchen.de (mail.physik.uni-muenchen.de [192.54.42.129]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jA5LqE4K009828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:14 +0100 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAAFD20004; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.physik.uni-muenchen.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.physik.uni-muenchen.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24277-01-2; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from mailhost.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de (kaiser.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de [141.84.136.1]) by mail.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E8220003; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from eiger.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de (eiger.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de [141.84.136.54]) by mailhost.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5829026E89; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by eiger.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Postfix, from userid 3092) id 604B634FFF; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eiger.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C2F22164; Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:52:11 +0100 (CET) From: Thomas Fischbacher To: Tom Hawkins Cc: Ray Heasman , cf-user Mailing List , caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: [cf-user] HDCaml 0.2.0 In-Reply-To: <436CF6E4.8060307@confluent.org> Message-ID: References: <436BA7D3.5080305@confluent.org> <1131138146.26370.11.camel@maze.mythral.org> <436CF6E4.8060307@confluent.org> X-BOFH: Daemons did it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at physik.uni-muenchen.de X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 436D298F.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 436D298E.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 ocaml:01 haskell:01 bookkeeping:01 debugging:01 2005,:98 cip:98 cip:98 lambda:01 lambda:01 wrote:01 expression:01 compiles:01 debian:02 physik:02 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Tom Hawkins wrote: > OCaml and Haskell programmers have an expression: "Once it compiles, it > usually just works!" Well, at least not from my experience. This may be true as long as you do algorithmically un-interesting things, but in practice, for code that uses more involved bookkeeping, one often still has to do quite extensive debugging. Besides this, I think that HDCaml is a quite neat approach. -- regards, tf@cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de (o_ Thomas Fischbacher - http://www.cip.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~tf //\ (lambda (n) ((lambda (p q r) (p p q r)) (lambda (g x y) V_/_ (if (= x 0) y (g g (- x 1) (* x y)))) n 1)) (Debian GNU)