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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>, caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: Ant:  [Caml-list] The "Objective" part of Objective Caml
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:15:31 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511072006270.20621@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1131414473.23991.37.camel@rosella>



On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, skaller wrote:

>>> The object oriented part of OCaml is roughly speaking
>>> just as capable as that of Python, C++, Java, C# etc.
>>
>> Sure, I don't doubt that.
>
> I do. The Python system is much more 'capable' and much less 'robust'.
> This is typical for dynamic typing vs static typing.

I think I'm with Skaller here- Objects in Ocaml are much less powerfull 
than they are in (for example) Java or Python.  For example, objects in 
Ocaml can not have non-virtual (non-overloadable) methods, or static 
(global) methods.  So patterns like singletons are hard to implement with 
Ocaml objects.

But that's OK- because Ocaml provides other ways to provide those 
capabilities.  The problem I have with a lot of pure-OO languages is the 
need to make objects do everything.  The proper way to do a singleton in 
Ocaml is to use modules, not objects.  If you're not using the true power 
of objects- inheritance, virtual functions, and overloading- you shouldn't 
be using objects.  So the fact that Ocaml doesn't provide support for 
these non-objects isn't a problem.

Brian


  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-08  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-04 22:45 Florian Weimer
2005-11-07 21:41 ` Ant: [Caml-list] " Martin Chabr
2005-11-07 21:55   ` Florian Weimer
2005-11-08  1:47     ` skaller
2005-11-08  2:15       ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2005-11-08  7:15         ` Daniel Bünzli
2005-11-08 15:02           ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-08 15:39             ` Alexander Fuchs
2005-11-08 15:42             ` Matt Gushee
2005-11-08 15:56               ` Michael Wohlwend
2005-11-08 18:16         ` brogoff
2005-11-08 22:04           ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-08 23:40             ` brogoff
2005-11-09  9:00             ` skaller
2005-11-11 15:28       ` Florian Weimer

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