From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD06BBA7 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:11:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jB6JBosc005796 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:11:50 +0100 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13670 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:11:49 +0100 (MET) Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id jB6JBj0u005770; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:11:48 +0100 Received: from frontend1.internal (mysql-sessions.internal [10.202.2.149]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF52D205B4; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:06:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.151]) by frontend1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 06 Dec 2005 14:06:50 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: /oeOeUGcDyi4TRHPwSpxuwO6LVbngiZLP/0Me+3XJ4ek 1133896009 Received: from munge (burnham.ljcrf.edu [192.231.106.2]) by frontend2.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1C257146A; Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:06:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: Martin Jambon X-X-Sender: martin@munge To: Alain Frisch Cc: Martin Jambon , caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Announcement: P4ck, installer of short Camlp4 hacks In-Reply-To: <43954341.70704@inria.fr> Message-ID: References: <43954341.70704@inria.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 4395E276.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 4395E271.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; caml-list:01 camlp:01 frisch:01 camlp:01 syntax:01 dependencies:01 ocaml:01 beginners:01 syntax:01 cdk:01 wrote:01 wrote:01 installer:01 hacks:01 hacks:01 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Alain Frisch wrote: > Martin Jambon wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> I wrote a small utility which downloads and installs small Camlp4 hacks, >> in order to make them more accessible: >> >> http://martin.jambon.free.fr/p4ck.html > > > << Of course there is GODI, which is a wonderful tool, but writing and > maintaining a GODI package, even with godiva is still more work than > writing the syntax extension itself, once you know Camlp4. So in > practice what the authors do is place the file for download on their > personal web site with some documentation and that's it. >> > > For those who know GODI as well as Camlp4, it shouldn't take more time > to write and maintain the GODI package than to write the extension > itself. Anyway... did you consider writing either: > > - a custom GODI package builder (from extensions); > - or a godi-p4ck package, which contains all the extensions in your > database. > > GODI doesn't only gives automatic installation and updates, but also > package dependencies. Dear Alain, Both of your suggestions are valid of course, and that may be the future direction that I will take (see message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners/message/5127). The fact is that none of the one-file syntax extensions that I am aware of are in GODI at the moment, including one of yours :-) (pa_openin) I definitely don't have time to manage these syntax extensions as GODI packages manually, let's be realistic. So an option would be to create GODI packages automatically, but: - mega-packages don't work well (see CDK), so I don't think a godi-p4ck-all could exist unless it is a virtual package which points to godi-p4ck-* - there is no version number in the syntax extensions, and the authors don't bother to create one. I don't want to deal with this. - the files can fail to download|compile|install, I don't care because users can fix the database without me, so I take a vacation and still sleep well. Thanks for your suggestions, Martin -- Martin Jambon, PhD http://martin.jambon.free.fr Store and share your bioinformatics tips at http://wikiomics.org