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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: William Lovas <wlovas@stwing.upenn.edu>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:45:59 -0600 (CST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0603081438460.9569@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060308193633.GA5460@coruscant.stwing.upenn.edu>



On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, William Lovas wrote:

> As the quoted paper said, though, some running transaction can always
> commit -- so not all of the associated costs are still paid.  In
> particular, the cost of potential non-termination due to deadlock or
> livelock is not paid.  It doesn't matter that there's a mutex under the
> hood, since it's used only in such a way as to preserve the property that
> some transaction can always complete.

One comment I will make is that a mutex is expensive, but not *that* 
expensive.  I just wrote a quick program (available if anyone cares) in 
GNU C that measures the cost, in clocks, of locking and unlocking a posix 
mutex.  On my desktop box (AMD Athlon XP 2200+ 1.8GHz), I'm getting a cost 
of like 44 clock cycles.  Which makes it less expensive than an L2 cache 
miss.

At this point correctness is a much bigger concern of mine than absolute 
performance.  A fair bit of conservative or unnecessary locking is 
acceptable, given than I can write a complicated and highly scalable 
application and know that I don't have deadlocks or livelocks.  Not having 
race conditions would also be nice, but I don't think that's possible with 
mutable data.

Brian


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-08 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-07 16:18 Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-07 16:50 ` [Caml-list] " Sebastian Egner
2006-03-07 17:44   ` Michael Hicks
2006-03-08  0:37     ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08  5:05       ` Erick Tryzelaar
2006-03-11 19:43     ` Deadlock free locking scheme (was: Re: [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml) David MENTRE
2006-03-07 17:15 ` [Caml-list] STM support in OCaml skaller
2006-03-07 19:05   ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08  0:52     ` skaller
2006-03-08  7:08       ` Bardur Arantsson
2006-03-08 10:38       ` [Caml-list] " Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08 19:36       ` William Lovas
2006-03-08 20:45         ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2006-03-08 21:14           ` Paul Snively
2006-03-08 22:06           ` skaller
2006-03-08 22:10             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2006-03-08 23:48               ` skaller
2006-03-09  7:45               ` Andrae Muys
2006-03-09  9:18                 ` David Brown
2006-03-08 22:11             ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-08 23:05               ` Lodewijk Vöge
2006-03-09  3:13                 ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-08 23:45               ` Robert Roessler
2006-03-09  0:23               ` skaller
2006-03-09  3:19                 ` Brian Hurt
2006-03-09  4:32                   ` skaller
2006-03-09 10:38                     ` John Chu
2006-03-09 16:53                     ` Stefan Monnier
2006-03-11 15:26             ` [Caml-list] " Florian Weimer
2006-03-08 10:11 yoann padioleau
2006-03-08 10:41 ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-08 12:23   ` skaller
2006-03-08 23:02     ` Asfand Yar Qazi
2006-03-09  0:36       ` skaller
2006-03-08 11:32 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2006-03-08 12:04   ` skaller
2006-03-08 19:22     ` Dan Grossman
2006-03-08 22:10       ` skaller

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