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From: Brian Hurt <bhurt@spnz.org>
To: skaller <skaller@users.sourceforge.net>
Cc: Jacques Carette <carette@mcmaster.ca>, caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] compiler bug?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:17:28 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0605182203340.10710@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1148003249.25630.29.camel@rosella.wigram>



On Fri, 19 May 2006, skaller wrote:

> On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 14:53 -0400, Jacques Carette wrote:
>> skaller wrote:
>>
>>> What about high level optimisations?
>>>
>>> Felix supports this:
>>>
>>> 	reduce revrev[t] (x:list[t]): rev (rev x) => x;
>
>> Haskell (GHC to be precise) allows that too. But is syntactic
>> term-rewriting, in other words it is *untyped*.
>
> It's well typed. x:list[t] means x is of type list[t].

I'm just wondering how often such optimizations are worthwhile.  From what 
I've read, basic register allocation and peephole optimizations gain you 
2x the performance- after that, it's a fight for percentage points.

Especially considering that humans tend to be a lot better at recognizing 
opportunities for high-level optimizations than computers are.  For 
example, a human would be much more likely to notice a double list 
reversal when the two reversals are in seperate modules, or otherwise 
obscured from the compiler.  Even more so, the programmer may decide that 
maybe a list isn't the right datastructure for this data- a decision I 
wouldn't trust to a compiler.

Brian


  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-19  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-17 23:14 Dan Koppel
2006-05-17 23:33 ` [Caml-list] " John Carr
2006-05-18 17:15 ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-18 17:34   ` Jacques Carette
2006-05-18 17:46     ` Xavier Leroy
2006-05-18 19:31       ` Jacques Carette
2006-05-18 20:07         ` David Brown
2006-05-18 20:15           ` Jacques Carette
2006-05-18 20:20           ` Alain Frisch
2006-05-18 18:19     ` skaller
2006-05-18 18:53       ` Jacques Carette
2006-05-19  1:47         ` skaller
2006-05-19  2:17           ` Brian Hurt [this message]
2006-05-19  3:11             ` skaller
2006-05-19 16:48           ` Jacques Carette
2006-05-19 19:10             ` skaller
2012-08-06 10:04 [Caml-list] Compiler bug? Dmitry Bely
2012-08-06 10:11 ` Alain Frisch
2012-08-06 10:20   ` Dmitry Bely
2012-08-06 10:34     ` Alain Frisch
2012-08-06 11:03       ` Dmitry Bely
2012-08-06 11:32         ` Alain Frisch
2012-08-06 12:16           ` Dmitry Bely
2012-08-07  1:35           ` Cedric Cellier
2012-08-08 16:03           ` Dmitry Bely
2012-08-08 18:03             ` Alain Frisch
2012-08-08 18:22               ` Jesper Louis Andersen
2012-08-08 18:40                 ` Dmitry Bely
2012-08-08 19:29                   ` Fabrice Le Fessant
2012-08-08 23:34                 ` Anil Madhavapeddy
2012-08-09  0:53                 ` Francois Berenger

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