From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from nez-perce.inria.fr (nez-perce.inria.fr [192.93.2.78]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE963BBBC for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:17:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pauillac.inria.fr (pauillac.inria.fr [128.93.11.35]) by nez-perce.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6LIHGo8018001 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:17:16 +0200 Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25486 for ; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:17:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6LIHBMM022855; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:17:15 +0200 Received: from frontend3.internal (frontend3.internal [10.202.2.152]) by frontend1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A26D90D23; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat2.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.161]) by frontend3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:17:06 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: xBQl+CO2VLov7hckmKkEc6om7l6HaCYiCx9FgdAErbku 1153505825 Received: from [172.16.112.115] (burnham.ljcrf.edu [192.231.106.2]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBFB3112; Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Martin Jambon X-X-Sender: martin@localhost To: Nicolas Pouillard Cc: Christophe TROESTLER , caml-list Subject: Re: [Caml-list] camlp4 & free variables In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20060720.012706.109316902.Christophe.Troestler@umh.ac.be> <20060720.163930.91910937.Christophe.Troestler@umh.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 44C11A27.000 on concorde : j-chkmail score : X : 0/20 1 X-Miltered: at nez-perce with ID 44C11A2C.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 44C11A27.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; camlp:01 camlp:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 1977:98 wrote:01 caml-list:01 caml-list:01 jambon:01 jambon:01 nicolas:02 variables:02 consequence:03 jul:04 fri:05 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Nicolas Pouillard wrote: >> Thanks again -- the new camlp4 version seem to really shine >> w.r.t. the previous one ! > > Thanks, I'm glad to see camlp4 receive appreciations :) If it makes you feel better, I don't think anybody was questioning the quality of your work. What I was pointing out is the lack of trust from the users, which is a direct consequence of the lack of communication from the core OCaml team. For example, why should anyone invest time in using Camlp4, when you see that the main developer left the OCaml group angrily a few years ago for unexplained reasons, and that the last version of the manual was released approximately at that time. Now that you have been preparing a new version of Camlp4 and you are obviously very motivated, why not setup a web page that answers all the practical and philosophical questions that people may ask themselves about Camlp4 and its relationship with the OCaml language. Tell yourself that when someone actually asks one question on the caml-list, it probably means that hundreds of people have had the same problem and just gave up. Thank you for your understanding, Martin -- Martin Jambon, PhD http://martin.jambon.free.fr