From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by c5ff346549e7 (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CF185D5 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 19:09:09 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.88,300,1635199200"; d="scan'208";a="16882426" Received: from prod-listesu18.inria.fr (HELO sympa.inria.fr) ([128.93.162.160]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 19 Jan 2022 20:09:08 +0100 Received: by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix, from userid 20132) id 8AEDAE00C9; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:09:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) by sympa.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 216D9E00C9 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:09:07 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.88,300,1635199200"; d="scan'208";a="16882406" Received: from prajna.paris.inria.fr ([128.93.65.171]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 19 Jan 2022 20:09:07 +0100 Received: from shindere by prajna.paris.inria.fr with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nAGKQ-000HES-I7 for caml-list@inria.fr; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:09:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:09:06 +0100 From: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Hinderer To: caml-list@inria.fr Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: caml-list@inria.fr References: <714c3a8d-25c8-c91e-ae01-46bf00920ffd@baturin.org> <20220117143005.qso775afaro24bi4@posteo.de> <467aab49-e503-57e0-0799-a40a9c0b878d@baturin.org> <20220117173608.qpufro64pbpfny5z@posteo.de> <696b25b0-7567-0b1b-4203-9f53634ca998@orbitalfox.eu> <20220119175121.zrug7wumxfsxl62x@posteo.de> <20220119180942.d3h4mrwpzlwqrbd6@posteo.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20220119180942.d3h4mrwpzlwqrbd6@posteo.de> Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ask questions on the mailing lists too Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien?= Hinderer X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Sequence: 18671 Errors-To: caml-list-owner@inria.fr Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: caml-list-request@inria.fr X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Sam Kuper (2022/01/19 18:09 +0000): > Similarly: > > We should never rely on anything but HTML. CSS styles and > JavaScript should always be an additional layer which is not > essential for the service to function. > > >https://accessibility-manual.dwp.gov.uk/tools-and-resources/govuk-resources One thing worth noting is that, as far as I know, text-mode browsers are far less maintained than mainstream browser. IN particular, I am very much in doubt about how much of HTML5 they support. So, even if they are in theory beter suited for visually impaired people (and themselves would not agree on that) in practice we need a realistic and sustainable solution and it looks more realistic and sustainable to make sure accessibility works well in a GUI-based browser. I don't think Javascript is necessary evil. You can do accessible Javascript-based websites and you can do very poorly accessible HTML websites. Sébastien.