From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA17740; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:36:48 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: pauillac.inria.fr: majordomo set sender to owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr using -f Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by pauillac.inria.fr (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17731 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:36:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from www.image-acquire.com (valkyrie.image-acquire.com [207.71.8.230]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.11.1/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f6BGak900266 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 18:36:46 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [128.135.227.16] (nsit-s227-16.uchicago.edu [128.135.227.16]) by www.image-acquire.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14607; Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:36:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bruce@www.hoult.org (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:35:16 -0500 To: Brian Rogoff , "Krishnaswami, Neel" From: Bruce Hoult Subject: Re: "Re: [Caml-list] A G'Caml question" + additional info Cc: caml-list@inria.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-caml-list@pauillac.inria.fr Precedence: bulk At 9:22 AM -0700 7/11/01, Brian Rogoff wrote: >G'Caml also has dynamics, so I imagine we'll be seeing other disaffected >Dylanites dallying with it too ;-). I'm not sure about that. Caml's primary interest for me is that it is mature and extremely well implemented. But the language itself seems to be starting to rival C++ for sheer complexity. When you want to do something you seem to have a choice of using this feature, or *this* one, or *this* newly developed one. Dylan is conceptually a much simpler language, with less intimidating syntax, and you can easily express what you want to do using a very small number of basic constructs. It depends on the compiler to find the way in which a particular use of a particular construct is not making use of the full generality and thus can be optimized, so it does require quite complex compilers to get speed. Dylan's biggest problem has been the fickleness of corporate development efforts, compared to the constancy of INRIA over a very long period. For which they are to be congratulated, of course! -- Bruce ------------------- Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/ To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr