From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.3 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD,HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC0ABBAF for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:52:27 +0100 (CET) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswBAFvFp0lKfSweimdsb2JhbACCXIophjRrPwEBAQoJDAcPBbEygQOPSAEDAQOEEQY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,277,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="24806110" Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com ([74.125.44.30]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 27 Feb 2009 19:52:26 +0100 Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so803716yxj.27 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:52:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=KxhvCyIm9HRwGxGci9EOHMSBoWjx94clI6EuhVLsSYI=; b=nB+dgpZkVoKXLnt4/NiG6YY3KxR1jEnt2MeOsinSrlRV6/nr1vyQ9dmloH3/1PKFaB 9/0lV7xk2feTLeTPXLYr0npekgEGn3JRw2SFAlW5rdPNLVH761/kG01XGVMHg2HZbpCS COEQVwjGEk0ih7uwqUc7bAP+GXskT6+syY+gs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=JahdhgZeId063ZkmtdVVRSg/rPunws7RywrmRlDg03HWXVjghfHktC01hSdTiCx9vU M/+5/9y1QFh3mqLwRFWPo0IQ+6SUiETVvOI7JIgHN2b0JKiC0PCIwEpdRi+hQUt7P1Ri jbq2FlWYF8ANdku5xx/ySXnm5pKVRL/XKd/nQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr4458203ybd.60.1235760745682; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:52:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20090227122755.GA22309@annexia.org> <20090227174204.GH9415@annexia.org> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:52:25 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Caml-list] The new OCaml book (Objective Caml Programming Language by Tim Rentsch) From: William Neumann To: Nathaniel Gray Cc: Caml Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59cf04619d10463eaf8fb X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 cheers:01 beginner's:01 ocaml:01 bug:01 cheers:01 beginner's:01 bug:01 2009:98 2009:98 nathan:98 printy:98 nathan:98 beginners:01 beginners:01 --000e0cd59cf04619d10463eaf8fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Jan. 11, 2008 pdf copy of his book says: "This book has been submitted for publication by Cambridge University Press. This draft may be used until the time the book appears in print" I don't know what the current status of that publication is, however. 2009/2/27 Nathaniel Gray > Sorry, this was meant to go to the list as well: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Nathaniel Gray wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:37:05AM -0800, Nathaniel Gray wrote: > >>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Richard Jones > wrote: > >>> > I previously mentioned this book on the list and said that I'd been > >>> > promised a review copy from the publisher: > >>> > > >>> > > http://www.amazon.com/Objective-Caml-Programming-Language/dp/0981599206 > >>> > > >>> > I received the review copy from Abscissa Press yesterday and I have > >>> > read the first few chapters. This book is in fact the Jason Hickey > >>> > book which has been floating around on the net for a while, updated > by > >>> > Tim Rentsch who I think is Jason's colleague or student. > >>> > >>> As someone who *was* Jason's student, I'd suggest that if that book is > >>> clearly derived from Jason's book but Jason's name isn't on the cover > >>> you should definitely be asking questions about that. I would say > >>> more but I don't want to put words in Jason's mouth. > >> > >> I don't think there is any suggestion that it was plagiarised from > >> him. In fact I think the author mentions Jason in the introduction ... > > > > The list time I spoke to Jason he had a deal with a major publisher > > for his book. I think it's safe to say that there is no chance that > > Jason would allow somebody to publish his book or a derived work > > without his name on the cover. > > > > > Cheers, > > -n8 > > > > -- > > Nathan Gray > > http://www.n8gray.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management: > http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list > Archives: http://caml.inria.fr > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs > > --000e0cd59cf04619d10463eaf8fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Jan. 11, 2008 pdf copy of his book says:
=A0
"This book has been submitted f= or publication by Cambridge University Press.
This draft may be used until the time the book appears = in print"

I don't know what=A0the current status of that pu= blication is, however.
=A0
2009/2/27 Nathaniel Gray <<= a href=3D"mailto:n8gray@gmail.com">n8gray@gmail.com>
Sorry, this was meant to go to t= he list as well:=20


On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Nathaniel G= ray <n8gray@gmail.= com> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Richard Jones &= lt;rich@annexia.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 09:37:05AM -0800, Nathaniel Gray wrote:>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 4:27 AM, Richard Jones <rich@annexia.org> wrote:=
>>> > I previously mentioned this book on the list and said tha= t I'd been
>>> > promised a review copy from the publish= er:
>>> >
>>> > ht= tp://www.amazon.com/Objective-Caml-Programming-Language/dp/0981599206 >>> >
>>> > I received the review copy from Absc= issa Press yesterday and I have
>>> > read the first few cha= pters. =A0This book is in fact the Jason Hickey
>>> > book w= hich has been floating around on the net for a while, updated by
>>> > Tim Rentsch who I think is Jason's colleague or stude= nt.
>>>
>>> As someone who *was* Jason's studen= t, I'd suggest that if that book is
>>> clearly derived fro= m Jason's book but Jason's name isn't on the cover
>>> you should definitely be asking questions about that. =A0I wou= ld say
>>> more but I don't want to put words in Jason'= s mouth.
>>
>> I don't think there is any suggestion = that it was plagiarised from
>> him. =A0In fact I think the author mentions Jason in the introduct= ion ...
>
> The list time I spoke to Jason he had a deal = with a major publisher
> for his book. =A0I think it's safe to sa= y that there is no chance that
> Jason would allow somebody to publish his book or a derived work
&g= t; without his name on the cover.=20

>
> Cheers,
> -n8
>
> = --
> Nathan Gray
> http://www.n8gray.org/
>

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