caml-list - the Caml user's mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "Nathaniel Gray" <n8gray@gmail.com>
To: "Olivier Andrieu" <oandrieu@nerim.net>
Cc: "Caml Mailing List" <caml-list@yquem.inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: Select on channels (again)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:27:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aee06c9e0608222227u1f7e14ebw20f17f284eb97b83@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17642.48113.637250.34242@karryall.dnsalias.org>

On 8/22/06, Olivier Andrieu <oandrieu@nerim.net> wrote:
>  Nathaniel Gray [Monday 21 August 2006] :
>  >
>  > On 8/21/06, Jonathan Roewen <jonathan.roewen@gmail.com> wrote:
>  > > Why can't you just use the unix file opening functions since you're
>  > > using unix select? And if you need the ocaml in/out channels, convert
>  > > the unix file descriptors to ocaml ones instead of the other way
>  > > around. Seems simple enough to me.
>  >
>  > It sounds simple but doesn't work.  If select tells you a file
>  > descriptor doesn't have data waiting you can't be sure there isn't
>  > still data in the corresponding channel's buffer.  See the thread that
>  > I referenced for a good discussion of why this is annoying.  For one
>  > thing, it makes it impossible to use Marshal.from_channel without
>  > potentially blocking.
>
> Indeed, Marshal.from_channel would block, but it's not the only way to
> read a marshalled value: cf. Marshal.header_size and
> Marshal.data_size.
>
> With these, you can read your marshalled value from file_descr into a
> buffer in a non-blocking, select-compatible way and then use
> Marshal.from_string.

Yes, as I said, it's possible to work around this limitation by
creating yet another implementation of buffered I/O.  My point is that
there's already a good buffered I/O implementation in ocaml that could
suit many (but not all) needs -- channels.  Adding channel_select
would make channels a lot more useful at very little expense.  Heck, I
would be satisfied with in/out_channel_is_ready, which would be even
easier!

Cheers,
-n8

-- 
>>>-- Nathaniel Gray -- Caltech Computer Science ------>
>>>-- Mojave Project -- http://mojave.cs.caltech.edu -->


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-23  5:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-15  0:46 Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-21 22:47 ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  0:42   ` [Caml-list] " Jonathan Roewen
2006-08-22  6:27     ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  6:41       ` Jonathan Roewen
2006-08-22  8:15         ` skaller
2006-08-22 21:15           ` Mike Lin
2006-08-23  5:12         ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-22  8:10       ` Olivier Andrieu
2006-08-23  5:27         ` Nathaniel Gray [this message]
2006-08-22  8:21       ` Jacques Garrigue
2006-08-23  5:16         ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-23  6:35           ` skaller
2006-08-23 19:31             ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-24  5:37               ` skaller
2006-08-24 19:06                 ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-25  1:55                   ` skaller
2006-08-25 22:19                     ` Nathaniel Gray
2006-08-23  8:29 Christoph Bauer
2006-08-23 17:35 ` Robert Roessler
2006-08-24  8:18 ` Robert Roessler

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=aee06c9e0608222227u1f7e14ebw20f17f284eb97b83@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=n8gray@gmail.com \
    --cc=caml-list@yquem.inria.fr \
    --cc=oandrieu@nerim.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).