camlidl test build failure Re: [Caml-list] CamlIDL question

camlidl test build failure Re: [Caml-list] CamlIDL question

[Kip Macy]

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the tests in camlidl-1.0.5 won't build:


> ocamlc -v
The Objective Caml compiler, version 3.08.2
Standard library directory: /usr/local/lib/ocaml
> cpp --version
cpp (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518
Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

> make
ocamlc -I ../lib -cc cc -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o component.o
component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
comcomp.o(.text+0xd): In function `create_instance':
/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115: undefined reference to
`operator new(unsigned int)'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x8):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0xc):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x10):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x14):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x18):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x1c):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:106:
more undefined references to `__cxa_pure_virtual' follow
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.t._ZN2CA7ReleaseEv+0x6b): In function
`CA::Release()':
/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:148: undefined reference to
`operator delete(void*)'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI8IUnknown+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IX+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for
__cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IY+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for
__cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2CA+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for
__cxxabiv1::__vmi_class_type_info'
comcomp.o(.eh_frame+0x11):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
Error while building custom runtime system
*** Error code 2


On 10/26/05, Christian Stork <cstork@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 01:03:45AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
> > On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Christian Stork wrote:
>
> > > I must be making a stupid mistake but I just don't see it. I put
> together a
> > > simple example that shows the problem. Even though the camlidl library
> is
> > > found its symbol "camlidl_free" is not. How can that be? Can anybody
> > > reproduce the problem or is this some hickup on my system?
>
> > > Here's what make produces (all files attached):
> > > [snip]
> > > make extest
> > > ocamlc -verbose -custom -cclib -lcamlidl -o extest \
> > > ex.o ex_stubs.o ex.cmo extest.cmo
>
> > Shouldn't this be
>
> > ocamlc -verbose -custom -cclib -o extest \
> > ex.o ex_stubs.o ex.cmo extest.cmo -lcamlidl
>
> > instead? Libraries should follow objects that refer to them...
>
> Thanks, that was it.
>
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Re: camlidl test build failure Re: [Caml-list] CamlIDL question

[Igor Pechtchanski]

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Kip Macy wrote:

> the tests in camlidl-1.0.5 won't build:
>
> > ocamlc -v
> The Objective Caml compiler, version 3.08.2
> Standard library directory: /usr/local/lib/ocaml
> > cpp --version
> cpp (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518
> Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
>
> > make
> ocamlc -I ../lib -cc cc -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
                   ^^^^^^
Since nobody replied, I'll take a stab at it.  Shouldn't the above line be

ocamlc -I ../lib -cc g++ -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a

at least?  All of the errors below look like they stem from the fact that
"cc" is used to compile C++ code (newer GCCs are stricter in this regard).

BTW, "cpp" is the C preprocessor, not the C++ compiler -- why do you think
its version is relevant?
HTH,
	Igor

> comcomp.o(.text+0xd): In function `create_instance':/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x8):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115: undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0xc):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115: undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x10):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122: undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x14):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122: undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x18):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122: undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x1c):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:106: more undefined references to `__cxa_pure_virtual' follow
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.t._ZN2CA7ReleaseEv+0x6b): In function `CA::Release()':/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:148: undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI8IUnknown+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IX+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IY+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2CA+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__vmi_class_type_info'
> comcomp.o(.eh_frame+0x11):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122: undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
> Error while building custom runtime system
> *** Error code 2

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Re: camlidl test build failure Re: [Caml-list] CamlIDL question

[Kip Macy]

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Thanks.

I was just taking the makefile as is. I was just listing cpp because there
were a bunch of alternatives in the makefile and neither gcc -E nor the
default work.

-Kip

On 11/1/05, Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Kip Macy wrote:
>
> > the tests in camlidl-1.0.5 won't build:
> >
> > > ocamlc -v
> > The Objective Caml compiler, version 3.08.2
> > Standard library directory: /usr/local/lib/ocaml
> > > cpp --version
> > cpp (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518
> > Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is
> NO
> > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> PURPOSE.
> >
> > > make
> > ocamlc -I ../lib -cc cc -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o
> component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
> ^^^^^^
> Since nobody replied, I'll take a stab at it. Shouldn't the above line be
>
> ocamlc -I ../lib -cc g++ -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o component.o
> component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
>
> at least? All of the errors below look like they stem from the fact that
> "cc" is used to compile C++ code (newer GCCs are stricter in this regard).
>
> BTW, "cpp" is the C preprocessor, not the C++ compiler -- why do you think
> its version is relevant?
> HTH,
> Igor
>
> > comcomp.o(.text+0xd): In function `create_instance':/home/kmacy/camlidl-
> 1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115: undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned
> int)'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x8):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0xc):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x10):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x14):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x18):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x1c):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:106:
> more undefined references to `__cxa_pure_virtual' follow
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.t._ZN2CA7ReleaseEv+0x6b): In function
> `CA::Release()':/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:148: undefined
> reference to `operator delete(void*)'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI8IUnknown+0x0): undefined reference to
> `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IX+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
> for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IY+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
> for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2CA+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
> for __cxxabiv1::__vmi_class_type_info'
> > comcomp.o(.eh_frame+0x11):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
> > Error while building custom runtime system
> > *** Error code 2
>
> --
> http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/
> |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu
> ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com
> |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D.
> '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow!
>
> If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity
> of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA
>

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Re: camlidl test build failure Re: [Caml-list] CamlIDL question

[Kip Macy]

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With that it will link. However, if I set CC to g++ and then try re-"make
all" it won't compile because of a lack of casts for the return value of
camlidl_alloc. I don'

On 11/1/05, Kip Macy <kip.macy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
>
> I was just taking the makefile as is. I was just listing cpp because there
> were a bunch of alternatives in the makefile and neither gcc -E nor the
> default work.
>
> -Kip
>
> On 11/1/05, Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Kip Macy wrote:
> >
> > > the tests in camlidl-1.0.5 won't build:
> > >
> > > > ocamlc -v
> > > The Objective Caml compiler, version 3.08.2
> > > Standard library directory: /usr/local/lib/ocaml
> > > > cpp --version
> > > cpp (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518
> > > Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is
> > NO
> > > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> > PURPOSE.
> > >
> > > > make
> > > ocamlc -I ../lib -cc cc -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o
> > component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
> > ^^^^^^
> > Since nobody replied, I'll take a stab at it. Shouldn't the above line
> > be
> >
> > ocamlc -I ../lib -cc g++ -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o
> > component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
> >
> > at least? All of the errors below look like they stem from the fact that
> > "cc" is used to compile C++ code (newer GCCs are stricter in this
> > regard).
> >
> > BTW, "cpp" is the C preprocessor, not the C++ compiler -- why do you
> > think
> > its version is relevant?
> > HTH,
> > Igor
> >
> > > comcomp.o(.text+0xd): In function
> > `create_instance':/home/kmacy/camlidl- 1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> > undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x8):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0xc):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x10):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x14):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x18):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x1c):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:106:
> > more undefined references to `__cxa_pure_virtual' follow
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.t._ZN2CA7ReleaseEv+0x6b): In function
> > `CA::Release()':/home/kmacy/camlidl- 1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:148:
> > undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI8IUnknown+0x0): undefined reference to
> > `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IX+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
> > for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IY+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
> > for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2CA+0x0): undefined reference to `vtable
> > for __cxxabiv1::__vmi_class_type_info'
> > > comcomp.o(.eh_frame+0x11):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
> > > Error while building custom runtime system
> > > *** Error code 2
> >
> > --
> > http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ <http://cs.nyu.edu/%7Epechtcha/>
> > |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu
> > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com
> > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D.
> > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow!
> >
> > If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity
> > of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: camlidl test build failure Re: [Caml-list] CamlIDL question

[Kip Macy]

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Wrong key...

It wouldn't be hard to fix with some small changes to the makefile, but I
guess it isn't very widely used.



-Kip


On 11/1/05, Kip Macy <kip.macy@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> With that it will link. However, if I set CC to g++ and then try re-"make
> all" it won't compile because of a lack of casts for the return value of
> camlidl_alloc. I don'
>
> On 11/1/05, Kip Macy <kip.macy@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > I was just taking the makefile as is. I was just listing cpp because
> > there were a bunch of alternatives in the makefile and neither gcc -E nor
> > the default work.
> >
> > -Kip
> >
> > On 11/1/05, Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Kip Macy wrote:
> > >
> > > > the tests in camlidl-1.0.5 won't build:
> > > >
> > > > > ocamlc -v
> > > > The Objective Caml compiler, version 3.08.2
> > > > Standard library directory: /usr/local/lib/ocaml
> > > > > cpp --version
> > > > cpp (GCC) 3.4.4 [FreeBSD] 20050518
> > > > Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > > > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There
> > > is NO
> > > > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> > > PURPOSE.
> > > >
> > > > > make
> > > > ocamlc -I ../lib -cc cc -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o
> > > component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
> > > ^^^^^^
> > > Since nobody replied, I'll take a stab at it. Shouldn't the above line
> > > be
> > >
> > > ocamlc -I ../lib -cc g++ -custom -o testcomp com.cmo comcomp.o
> > > component.o component.cmo testcomponent.cmo ../runtime/libcamlidl.a
> > >
> > > at least? All of the errors below look like they stem from the fact
> > > that
> > > "cc" is used to compile C++ code (newer GCCs are stricter in this
> > > regard).
> > >
> > > BTW, "cpp" is the C preprocessor, not the C++ compiler -- why do you
> > > think
> > > its version is relevant?
> > > HTH,
> > > Igor
> > >
> > > > comcomp.o(.text+0xd): In function
> > > `create_instance':/home/kmacy/camlidl- 1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> > > undefined reference to `operator new(unsigned int)'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x8):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> > > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0xc):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:115:
> > > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x10):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x14):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x18):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > > undefined reference to `__cxa_pure_virtual'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV2IY+0x1c):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:106:
> > > more undefined references to `__cxa_pure_virtual' follow
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.t._ZN2CA7ReleaseEv+0x6b): In function
> > > `CA::Release()':/home/kmacy/camlidl- 1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:148:
> > > undefined reference to `operator delete(void*)'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI8IUnknown+0x0): undefined reference to
> > > `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IX+0x0): undefined reference to
> > > `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2IY+0x0): undefined reference to
> > > `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__si_class_type_info'
> > > > comcomp.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTI2CA+0x0): undefined reference to
> > > `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__vmi_class_type_info'
> > > > comcomp.o(.eh_frame+0x11):/home/kmacy/camlidl-1.05/tests/comcomp.cpp:122:
> > > undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
> > > > Error while building custom runtime system
> > > > *** Error code 2
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ <http://cs.nyu.edu/%7Epechtcha/>
> > > |\ _,,,---,,_ pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu
> > > ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ igor@watson.ibm.com
> > > |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D.
> > > '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow!
> > >
> > > If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional
> > > infinity
> > > of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs.
> > > /DA
> > >
> >
> >
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