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From: "Berke Durak" <berke.durak@gmail.com>
To: "Yaron Minsky" <yminsky@janestcapital.com>
Cc: "Dario Teixeira" <darioteixeira@yahoo.com>,
	"Caml List" <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] OCaml Summer Project decisions are in
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 10:46:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b903a8570804190146g35312edbid0bb8e5e8e28dd01@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1208546581.16295.108.camel@nyc-qws-018.delacy.com>

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The concurrent GC is a great idea.  A few interrogations.

- How "stoppy" would a stop-the-world parallel GC be in practice?  The more
parallelism
you have, the more work is done, the higher the frequency of a major
collection.

- Would major allocations be serialized?  What about other serialization
points?

- I'm afraid true concurrency will introduce an awful lot of bugs in native
bindings.  Thread-unsafe libraries will have to be replaced (Str, etc.)
Also what would be the CPU
and memory costs?  Don't concurrent GCs require extra colors?

- In case of performance impacts, will the old single-threaded mode still be
available?

The argument that "you'll get the same old perfomance if you run it in
single-threaded mode"
is not valid IMHO.  Many people will use a thread here or there and then you
won't realistically be able to run in single-threaded mode.

But then we can't pretend multi-core doesn't exist.  A suggestion: making
the parallel GC available only on 64-bit seems a reasonable restriction (if
that's ever needed.)

Also Damien Doligez (in addition to Xavier Leroy) certainly have nice things
to say about all this.
-- 
Berke Durak

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-19  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-18 14:51 Yaron Minsky
2008-04-18 15:46 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2008-04-18 16:42 ` Dario Teixeira
2008-04-18 19:23   ` Yaron Minsky
2008-04-19  8:46     ` Berke Durak [this message]
2008-04-19 14:21       ` Benjamin Canou
2008-04-20 16:12         ` Xavier Leroy
2008-04-21  9:24           ` Berke Durak
2008-04-21 11:17             ` Jon Harrop
2008-04-19 11:29   ` Francois Pottier
2008-04-19 15:11     ` Dario Teixeira
2008-04-19 13:38 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2008-04-20 20:06 ` [Caml-list] " Florian Hars

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