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From: "Berke Durak" <berke.durak@gmail.com>
To: "Jon Harrop" <jon@ffconsultancy.com>
Cc: caml-list <caml-list@inria.fr>
Subject: Where's my non-classical shared memory concurrency technology?
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:39:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b903a8570805180139i7dfe7526u799e82d5126c9f3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

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On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:

>
> Avoiding threads does not improve the safety of the language, it simply
> degrades the capabilities of the language.
>

Avoiding threads is like avoiding malloc() in a C program and doing only
static and stack allocation: it is cumbersome and impractical, but avoids a
whole class of allocation bugs.

Similarly, avoiding threads removes concurrency bugs - while reducing the
concurrency capabilities.  So it's not really improvement of safety, but
rather avoidance of unsafety - a purely semantic issue.

I think we are still lacking programming language technology to integrate
safe and easy-to-use shared memory concurrency in ML-like languages.  Does
anyone know of anything in this area aside from transactional memory?
-- 
Berke

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             reply	other threads:[~2008-05-18  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-18  8:39 Berke Durak [this message]
2008-05-18 16:35 ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-19 11:45   ` [Caml-list] " Martin Berger
2008-05-19 12:24     ` Berke Durak
2008-05-19 21:47       ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-19 22:24         ` Berke Durak
2008-05-19 22:37           ` Raoul Duke
2008-05-20  0:04             ` Pierre-Evariste Dagand
2008-05-20 21:27           ` David Teller
2008-05-21  7:52             ` Martin Berger
2008-05-21  8:06       ` Martin Berger
2008-05-19 14:09     ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-05-19 16:30       ` Richard Jones
2008-05-19 18:26       ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-20  7:40       ` Ulf Wiger (TN/EAB)
2008-05-21  8:18         ` Martin Berger
2008-05-21  8:06       ` Martin Berger
2008-05-21 13:50         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2008-05-26 15:29         ` Damien Doligez
2008-05-26 16:08           ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-27  9:34           ` Martin Berger
2008-05-28 11:18             ` Damien Doligez
2008-05-28 12:16               ` Jon Harrop
2008-05-28 17:41               ` Martin Berger
2008-05-29 12:02               ` Frédéric Gava

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