From: Tom <tom.primozic@gmail.com>
To: "Jacques GARRIGUE" <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
Cc: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Polymorphic Variants
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 22:13:50 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1490a380701171313j7f54a420yd17d15164e52f9ac@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070117.111927.2004173151.garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp>
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On 17/01/07, Jacques GARRIGUE <garrigue@math.nagoya-u.ac.jp> wrote:
>
> From: Tom <tom.primozic@gmail.com>
> > So... why actually are polymorphic variants useful? Why can't they
> simply be
> > implemented as normal, concrete (or how would you call them? ...)
> variants?
>
> The original motivation was for the LablTk library, where some types
> (index for instance) have lots of small variations. At that point
> there where several options
> * overloading (but ocaml loathes overloading, you could say that the
> total absence of overloading is essential to the language)
>
Is there a reason for that? Is it only hard to implement or are there any
conceptual / strategical / theoretical reasons?
> OCaml does not, as far as I know, have any structural typing for
> records..
Hm... Actually, what I had in mind is nominal subtyping... similar to
objects, in fact, objects in C++-like languages, just that they have no
class methods.
Now... close your eyes (but try to continue reading this ;) ) and imagine
you're in a dreamworld. You are programming in a language that has
* function overloading that allows you to have
length "abcd" + length [1; 2; 3]
* Constructor overloading, eliminating the need of
type parse_expression =
Pexp_name of string
| Pexp_constant of constant
| Pexp_let of (pattern * parse_expression) * parse_expression
| Pexp_apply of parse_expression * parse_expression list
| Pexp_try of parse_expression * (pattern * parse_expression) list
type typed_expression =
Texp_ident of ident
| Texp_constant of constant
| Texp_let of (pattern * typed_expression) * typed_expression
| Texp_apply of typed_expression * typed_expression list
| Texp_try of typed_expression * (pattern * typed_expression) list
as it can be coded as
type parse_expression =
Name of string
| Constant of constant
| ...
type typed_expression =
Ident of ident
| Constant of constant
| ...
* nominal subtyping of records, with overloaded field names:
type widget = {x : float; y : float; width: float; height: float} (*
top-level type *)
type button = {widget | text : string }
type checkbox = {button | checked : bool}
type image = {widget | url : string}
type vector = {x : float; y : float}
type document {url : url}
so subtypes could be applied to a function
fun move : widget -> (float * float) -> unit
let chk = {x = 0.0; y = 0.0; width = 10.0; height = 12.0; text =
"Check me!"; checked = false}
move chk (3.0, 3.0)
and types could be "discovered" at runtime:
let draw widget =
typematch widget with
w : widget -> draw_box (w.x, w.y, w.height, w.width)
| b : button -> draw_box (b.x, b.y, b.height, b.width); draw_text
b.text
| i : image -> draw_image i.url (i.x, i.y)
| ...
Do you think you would be "satisfied" even without polymorphic variants?
I am not saying this just for fun... I want to create a language with
overloading, but I kinda don't really like polymorphic variants... thou if
they turn out to be really useful, I would probably start to like them.
Any comments?
- Tom
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-17 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-16 20:32 Tom
2007-01-16 20:49 ` [Caml-list] " Seth J. Fogarty
2007-01-16 21:05 ` Tom
2007-01-16 21:23 ` Seth J. Fogarty
2007-01-16 21:45 ` Edgar Friendly
2007-01-16 22:18 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2007-01-17 5:55 ` skaller
2007-01-17 0:30 ` Jonathan Roewen
2007-01-17 2:19 ` Jacques GARRIGUE
2007-01-17 3:24 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-01-18 2:12 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-01-17 6:09 ` skaller
2007-01-17 13:34 ` Andrej Bauer
2007-01-17 21:13 ` Tom [this message]
2007-01-17 22:53 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-17 23:07 ` Tom
[not found] ` <200701172349.53331.jon@ffconsultancy.com>
[not found] ` <c1490a380701180407j670a7cccyb679c71fde20aa4b@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-18 16:23 ` Fwd: " Tom
2007-01-18 21:14 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-19 9:26 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-01-19 10:35 ` Tom
2007-01-19 11:14 ` Dirk Thierbach
2007-01-19 12:03 ` Tom
2007-01-18 21:43 ` Christophe TROESTLER
2007-01-18 1:28 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-01-18 1:46 ` Jon Harrop
2007-01-18 4:05 ` skaller
2007-01-18 6:20 ` Jacques Garrigue
2007-01-18 9:48 ` skaller
2007-01-18 12:23 ` Tom
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-17 9:49 [Caml-list] Polymorphic variants John Max Skaller
2002-04-17 10:43 ` Remi VANICAT
2002-04-17 23:49 ` John Max Skaller
2002-04-18 1:23 ` Jacques Garrigue
2002-04-18 9:04 ` John Max Skaller
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