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From: "Michael D. Adams" <mdmkolbe@gmail.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Efficency of varient types
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 00:06:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c62c8d860511262106g59cb7bccwcfa24124b97a0a2b@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4387ACC9.2040107@motion-twin.com>

On 11/25/05, Nicolas Cannasse <ncannasse@motion-twin.com> wrote:
> Michael D. Adams wrote:
> > I have recently learned about OCaml and have been impressed by how
> > fast it is in the benchmarks.  However I have discovered that variant
> > types can slow down a program quite a bit.  For example, consider the
> > Ackermann function implemented for int (see program 1) and the same
> > Ackermann function implemented for a "type value = Int of int | String
> > of int" (program 2).  The second one is ten times slower!  (Using
> > ocamlopt.)
>
> In order to understand what there is such difference, it's useful to
> learn the ocaml memory model at runtime :
>
> - int are 31 bits unboxed value with last bit set to 1 in order to
> differenciate them with GC allocated pointers.
> - tagged variants are GC allocated blocks with a discriminating "tag" in
> the header.
> - chars and booleans are integers at runtime

That all makes sense.

> The second bit is used to mark an exception but it's only internal and
> temporary when dealing with callbacks.

Could to elaborate on this "second bit"?  (I assume you mean the bit
in the two's position.)  Or is there a document that might describe
it?

I am very interested in how this bit is used and whether the GC will
ignore values ending with the bits 10.

> If you have a tagged variant where all constructors have a parameter,
> you can use Obj module to unbox the Int variant but the code is a lot
> less readable.

I agree, which is why it was my hope that OCaml might do some of that
for me.  Consider a home brew bool type, "type mybool = Mytrue |
Myfalse".  If the compiler were smart enough, it could represent that
as an unboxed type.  From there it might be a small step to
semi-unboxed types such as the one I started this discussion with,
"type value = Int of int | Bool of bool | String of string".

It sounds like that is not possible, so I have to settle for the Obj module.

Michael D. Adams
mdmkolbe@gmail.com

P.S. I should note that experiments using the Obj module to manually
do semi-boxing show very good performance.  The following code
performs only 50% slower than a completely unboxed version.  Compare
that with 900% slower with boxed, variant types.

let plus x y =
  if Obj.is_int (Obj.repr x) && Obj.is_int (Obj.repr y)
    then Obj.magic ((Obj.magic x) + (Obj.magic y))
    else Obj.magic (0)

let minus x y =
  if Obj.is_int (Obj.repr x) && Obj.is_int (Obj.repr y)
    then Obj.magic ((Obj.magic x) - (Obj.magic y))
    else Obj.magic (0)

let zero = 0
let one = 1

let rec ack m n =
  if m = zero then plus n one
  else if n = zero then ack (minus m one) one
  else ack (minus m one) (ack m (minus n one))

let _ = ack (3) (9)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-27  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-25 23:53 Michael D. Adams
2005-11-26  0:31 ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-26  1:22   ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-26  9:39     ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-28  0:17     ` Obj or not Obj Christophe Raffalli
2005-11-28  8:41       ` [Caml-list] " Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-28  9:27         ` Christophe Raffalli
2005-11-28  9:33         ` skaller
2005-11-28  8:43       ` Alain Frisch
2005-11-26  2:54   ` [Caml-list] Efficency of varient types skaller
2005-11-27  5:06   ` Michael D. Adams [this message]
2005-11-27  5:45     ` Brian Hurt
2005-11-27 10:02       ` Nicolas Cannasse
2005-11-27 15:35       ` Michael D. Adams
2005-11-27 18:08         ` Brian Hurt
2005-12-02 15:07           ` Michael D. Adams
2005-11-26  1:18 ` Jon Harrop
2005-11-27 14:57 ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2005-11-27 15:47   ` Lukasz Stafiniak
2005-11-28  8:14   ` Christophe Raffalli
2005-11-28  7:24 ` David Baelde
2005-11-28  7:49   ` Jacques Garrigue
2005-11-28 10:01     ` Jon Harrop
2005-11-28 10:26       ` Luc Maranget
2005-11-28  7:53   ` Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-12-01 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-02 15:07   ` [Caml-list] " Michael D. Adams

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