From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41858BBC4 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:40:39 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlQDAMZd1ElKfU4akGdsb2JhbACCIQQwikaIQT8BAQEBCQkMBxEDqR+QIQEDAQOCNoFDBoYF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,431,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="26886130" Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com ([74.125.78.26]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 02 Apr 2009 15:40:34 +0200 Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 4so106088eyf.15 for ; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q0uX4fMPMysdUXBBN6OepRX8i5eEUhnOPqigJPuuV5I=; b=q+VD21485+15zcW+vyK5xXaWuaIz/+oTORKmLPak0M8PgY4LUmhb6N4iXAE3Lr65O/ pqaXcLfpz8Vnl9g7yZob+qdExRIGjK0yItquy//MCymr39QLbOqedtht/Y5SVelrZ6+H 2kKXqpYDgYMvY1gVHXDAa4SvY7YxpLRaBV0HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wTlTIN+AeaIKkXjsFZbqH3OR9tQMt88D9OAVfip1amiiu5kVXtgIgLjAqyf9ytBZXs z0shUAtORJmbU0tQG+Nru+IbNxee1FxYgDIK59PoWVNNLJVCg4SNn+dFRvYq4SdVrHAr I54fPJ1rOMFXLp/z25K6RnIsUxDWkOyZIUo3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alpmestan@gmail.com Received: by 10.210.38.17 with SMTP id l17mr5405415ebl.45.1238679633908; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:40:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200904021437.28166.jon@ffconsultancy.com> References: <449979.43681.qm@web54104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <200904021437.28166.jon@ffconsultancy.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 15:40:33 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 701ce18fe8385a6e Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Re: LLC book [was: Questions] From: Alp Mestan To: Jon Harrop , caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3ea491d78f04669293e8 X-Spam: no; 0.00; ocaml:01 syntax:01 camlp:01 ocamlnet:01 gtk:01 ocaml:01 lablgtk:01 camlp:01 ffi:01 stub:01 compilation:01 bindings:01 beginner's:01 bug:01 syntax:01 --0015174c3ea491d78f04669293e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Indeed, as I said above, a book on "today's OCaml" should cover a wide variety of topics (syntax extensions with camlp4/5, general purpose libraries, specific libraries like ocamlnet, GTK+ and OpenGL binding, etc). To write such a book, there would be the need for many authors with time and knowledge to produce a good learning and practice material for OCaml ! I think many of us would enjoy writing some paragraphs for such a project... But would there be enough people to achieve the writing of an entire (and good) book ? On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jon Harrop wrote: > On Thursday 02 April 2009 13:41:01 Ed Keith wrote: > > Having said that, I currently have some free time time and would be > willing > > to offer my assistance to this project. It would give me the opportunity > to > > hone my writing and ocaml skills, and I believe as an experienced > > professional programmer (I have worked in government, military, finance, > > medicine, aviation, and research) and ocaml newbie I could bring a useful > > perspective to the project. > > > > I hope I can be of service, > > I think the existing books cover the core parts of the language well so > there > is no need for further work in that area but I would like to see books > covering the following topics: > > . Batteries (!). > > . Libraries, e.g. LablGTK. > > . Post 3.10 camlp4. > > . Other tools, e.g. menhir, dpygen, bitstrings, micmatch. > > There are also some areas where I think today's OCaml software could be > improved: > > . Automatic FFI stub JIT compilation using LLVM. > > . OpenGL 3 bindings. > > . GUI libraries. > > . IDEs (probably depends upon GUI libraries). > > -- > Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. > http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e > > _______________________________________________ > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management: > http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list > Archives: http://caml.inria.fr > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs > -- Alp Mestan In charge of the C++ section on Developpez.com. --0015174c3ea491d78f04669293e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Indeed, as I said above, a book on "today's OCaml" should cov= er a wide variety of topics (syntax extensions with camlp4/5, general purpo= se libraries, specific libraries like ocamlnet, GTK+ and OpenGL binding, et= c). To write such a book, there would be the need for many authors with tim= e and knowledge to produce a good learning and practice material for OCaml = !

I think many of us would enjoy writing some paragraphs for such a proje= ct... But would there be enough people to achieve the writing of an entire = (and good) book ?

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at = 3:37 PM, Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
On Thursday 02 April 2009 13:41:01 Ed Keith wrote:
> Having said that, I currently have some free time time and would be wi= lling
> to offer my assistance to this project. It would give me the opportuni= ty to
> hone my writing and ocaml skills, and I believe as an experienced
> professional programmer (I have worked in government, military, financ= e,
> medicine, aviation, and research) and ocaml newbie I could bring a use= ful
> perspective to the project.
>
> I hope I can be of service,

I think the existing books cover the core parts of the language well = so there
is no need for further work in that area but I would like to see books
covering the following topics:

. Batteries (!).

. Libraries, e.g. LablGTK.

. Post 3.10 camlp4.

. Other tools, e.g. menhir, dpygen, bitstrings, micmatch.

There are also some areas where I think today's OCaml software could be=
improved:

. Automatic FFI stub JIT compilation using LLVM.

. OpenGL 3 bindings.

. GUI libraries.

. IDEs (probably depends upon GUI libraries).

--
Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ff= consultancy.com/?e

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