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From: "Daniel Yokomizo" <daniel_yokomiso@yahoo.com.br>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Re: exception safety / RAII ?
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 19:53:44 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0l9tg$6u5$1@sea.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200503080110.21839.jon@jdh30.plus.com>


"Jon Harrop" <jon@jdh30.plus.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:200503080110.21839.jon@jdh30.plus.com...
> On Monday 07 March 2005 18:47, Michael Walter wrote:

[snip]

> > I have no idea about with finalizers in O'Caml (hence my more
> > broad/general statement), but in other languages I've worked with
> > there are several limitations which all basically origin in the fact
> > that finalization order in these languages was non-deterministic.
>
> Ok, I have found that, with a little thought and careful design
beforehand,
> this is not a problem in OCaml. In the case of DAG dependency graphs, my
> solution is to represent the dependency graph for the GC by maintaining a
> list of references to dependees in each object. This forces the GC to
respect
> dependencies when collecting.

AFAIK it doesn't force the GC to respect the dependencies. A object is
garbage if it can't be reached from any root references, it doesn't matter
if other garbage objects still reference it. So if we have:


ROOT -> A -> B -> C

D -> E -> F

G -> B

H -> C


the GC can collect any of [D, E, F, G, H], in any order it wants, because
they're all garbage. An incremental collector could collect first [F, G, H]
because they are (say) large objects, and don't recycle the memory for [D,
E] until the next collection.

IIUC the current OCaml GC implementation may exhibit such properties (i.e.
respect dependencies) but it isn't required to do so.

> If the dependency graph is allowed to contain cycles then this might not
work.
> I'm not sure though.
>
> -- 
> Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
> Objective CAML for Scientists
> http://www.ffconsultancy.com/products/ocaml_for_scientists




  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-08 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-05 18:16 Michael Benfield
2005-03-05 18:44 ` [Caml-list] " Gerd Stolpmann
2005-03-07  0:03 ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-07  1:32   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-07  2:48     ` [Caml-list] " Brian Hurt
2005-03-07 13:30     ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-07 14:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-07 17:10         ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-08 13:07           ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-08 21:56           ` Oliver Bandel
2005-03-09 13:34             ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-09 14:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-09 16:19             ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-09 22:45               ` [Caml-list] Re: exception safety / RAII Oliver Bandel
2005-03-09 23:42                 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-03-10 14:33               ` exception safety / RAII ? Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 16:52                 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-11 14:46                   ` Michael Walter
2005-03-12 22:54                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-07 15:21       ` [Caml-list] " Michael Walter
     [not found]         ` <200503071729.20117.jon@jdh30.plus.com>
2005-03-07 18:47           ` Michael Walter
2005-03-08  1:10             ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-08 22:19               ` Oliver Bandel
2005-03-08 22:53               ` Daniel Yokomizo [this message]
2005-03-09  1:21                 ` [Caml-list] " Jon Harrop
2005-03-09 13:21                 ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-08 11:33             ` [Caml-list] " Ville-Pertti Keinonen
2005-03-08 12:32               ` Richard Jones
2005-03-08 14:17                 ` Michael Walter
2005-03-08 18:28               ` Jon Harrop
2005-03-08 21:34                 ` Damien Doligez
2005-03-09 15:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-09 22:30                   ` [Caml-list] " Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2005-03-10 14:20                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-08 21:32       ` [Caml-list] " Oliver Bandel
2005-03-07  3:31   ` [Caml-list] " Michael Walter

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