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From: henri dubois-ferriere <henridf@gmail.com>
To: Pierre Weis <pierre.weis@inria.fr>
Cc: "Basile Starynkevitch [local]" <basile.starynkevitch@inria.fr>,
	caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 00:21:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d61254fb04071600217fa58c8a@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407160647.IAA02290@pauillac.inria.fr>

> To go beyond that, we would need some help from the language that
> would offer some provision for debugging from a special debug keyword,
> semantically reminiscent to lazy and assert (as a kind of combined
> semantics of both constructs). A compiler flag would then
> automatically remove the debugging code (as is done for assert with
> the -noassert flag) and the compiler will automatically insert the
> (fun () -> ) as it already does in the case of lazy ...

count one person at least who would be very interested in such a feature!!
exactly for this purpose of log messages with varying debug levels.

henri


> 
> [...]
> > Actually, I more and more hate printf, both in C and in Ocaml. I
> > really believe it is a nightmare.
> 
> Could you elaborate a bit ? We worked hard to provide a clean fully
> typed interface to printf and, well ... we like using it :)
> 
> We may have missed the point that makes your printf experience ``a
> nightmare'', and having information on that could be helpful to
> improve the implementation.
> 
> > A possible suggestion might be to
> >   add a StopPrintf exception to Printf
> > and
> >   add a tryprintf function to Printf, which takes a prologue function
> > as an argument. If the prologue raises an exception, no formatting
> > occur;  otherwise, tryprintf works like kprintf
> 
> I don't think the problem is in printf. The problem is in the way you
> call printf (no printf variant could prevent evaluating the format
> string and evaluating the arguments of its call: this is mandatory due
> to the semantics of the language).
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Pierre Weis
> 
> INRIA, Projet Cristal, Pierre.Weis@inria.fr, http://pauillac.inria.fr/~weis/
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-07-16  7:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-06-30 16:32 Damien
2004-07-14 21:10 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15  0:17   ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15  7:30     ` David MENTRE
2004-07-15  7:59       ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-15 23:35         ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-15  7:39     ` Damien
2004-07-15 12:19       ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 12:42         ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 13:45           ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-15 14:22             ` Basile Starynkevitch [local]
2004-07-15 14:57               ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16  6:47               ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16  7:13                 ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16  7:23                   ` henri dubois-ferriere
2004-07-16  7:44                     ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16 17:56                   ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19  9:17                   ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19  9:32                     ` Jean-Christophe Filliatre
2004-07-16  7:21                 ` henri dubois-ferriere [this message]
2004-07-16 17:44                 ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:10                   ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-19 10:43                     ` Jon Harrop
2004-07-21 15:52                       ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-21 17:43                         ` lazyness in ocaml (was : [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters) Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-22 16:28                           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 17:03                             ` William Lovas
2004-07-22 23:00                             ` skaller
2004-07-23  3:32                               ` William Lovas
2004-07-28  7:26                               ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28  8:06                                 ` skaller
2004-07-28  8:29                                   ` Daniel Bünzli
2004-07-28  9:13                                   ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-28  9:36                                     ` skaller
2004-07-28  9:38                                     ` skaller
2004-07-28 10:17                                 ` Jason Smith
2004-07-28 12:31                                   ` skaller
2004-07-21 20:41                         ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Jon Harrop
2004-07-22 15:39                           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-22 22:16                             ` [Caml-list] lazy evaluation: [Was: kprintf with user formatters] skaller
2004-07-22 22:42                             ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters skaller
2004-07-22  8:05                         ` [Caml-list] wait instruction lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22  8:40                           ` Olivier Andrieu
2004-07-22 10:35                             ` lehalle@miriad
2004-07-22 10:33                           ` Vitaly Lugovsky
2004-07-16  6:17             ` [Caml-list] kprintf with user formatters Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 17:14               ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19 10:00                 ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16  6:02       ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16  8:42         ` Damien
2004-07-19  9:00           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-16 16:52         ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-19  9:28           ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 22:20     ` Pierre Weis
2004-07-15 23:01       ` Markus Mottl
2004-07-16 16:17     ` james woodyatt

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