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d="scan'208";a="357626764" Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]) by mail2-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 27 Nov 2018 17:27:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([93.132.183.97]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDgDS-1gBh660c6o-00H3Dl; Tue, 27 Nov 2018 17:27:28 +0100 To: Oliver Bandel References: <20181126101448.3ee5jgz4c6ulsbbr@first.in-berlin.de> <20181126225522.GY3935@church> <20181127132914.ifjkrrsg677zcy6r@first.in-berlin.de> <20181127150629.GC1374@carty> <20181127154929.h2sdvjhwzyyfwior@first.in-berlin.de> Cc: caml-list@inria.fr From: SF Markus Elfring Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 17:27:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20181127154929.h2sdvjhwzyyfwior@first.in-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1nnNHWg9euWhS8sTc1MRPxMVmvNWOZExsPnV+8OcUit5Tq0tRRC DxlJbGmVCWFMtIM3ppn09D6Tu/g9VFykoZ6Kor7JBPUXKtMO5qrqqiZQBU0bcgvYWLDkJNM o+xJVRO04oFq4Y6SMOKUKWAqYIPLdzYpvVVu7gUVNH0/VT/91qIZHpmhYFFiqMsIxFa27TW 3921ywdYaD8nH8WbsmKDA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+1jPlRlZ/vE=:gNG4Ha6lyl+YYDNMDfKS3E 01LZYuSkhbfH7TkB+N81BB7dUpBh7YqnMyyEUsrc3ik1Naxq+H/maBvepzZCZ0ivArLHefgcT kIZ3Bpo8shWjoyX2hyikKjJ856E5odu5f/+AVAog5T6+dIdEWUzsOaIZmlvwgCdmOYtZK0rte foYdkG2A7nT9a/InacQTwMmQM1lvF0souSPchpL45tIe7Nrnkq4XJ1PLGh/0wF+1LtFEiKHc8 WBatL5MLRp4tdwzwtf9bz457puO/aFL6wtmtVQwKR9EpwtTC75JXxcn5SL0dEfANgTv52Sxgb +9cdcuGZJrPDSPM8IcY2GxtPwi/VI042/Sj7DVtqZXw0JpYw36oU8NIj76A12oXVHc7E0WJas w08EyvzkltLz/B8k7LeMsDz3CE/2QuXPw1Iteci/1N5brhLtb+9cweM5tV5eexea3Nf+ykrAr nBnKePuRu8WN2tOOxckqmHRmGjVKQLlqqYTTYv/QzP8VcMYwug+LOsTB5rZN1bwizu4qFvzQf TAvv8GEkMyqcdpS5es2N274a5QwHUiJyPbxcKrXgC+E7ec1DVevLjUfpzazhEa0JhPpWbt1rO ADKSrBKrGnQ7fd+ZydRc2NRUWv2pAZyBVW7TR606s11WVmMe5ZZZnB7BcI55UV1/C5B3Zit6v boemTtlvEyD3jDeunuWYDExgZOAhXK94FfIC2Jx9v3F58PYdiAWgreIL5W+3ruvEHvF4cXbsX dGWxmwcwNGz9G5bl606yHCnIkZ6GYwc8hgRAUMkbbqGJflPxrGw3LAnX7yt7Ai+ZefVrNZ/Aa Ok48AXcJfnnToKtkwmndx2ZetwHqFyAal+NM4GrL212LjnR8orK9Uj2A1kAKv2phv1v5eaCn/ RAIvWs2Xp3bx1A31HVHn8dudfMcKGvuUoRuYy5Q0FgNB475jgomM909IDmN0R70TWLVRun+t1 mAi7WBWonaA== Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Build-/Installation tools - not enough of them? Reply-To: SF Markus Elfring X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Sequence: 17177 Errors-to: caml-list-owner@inria.fr Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: caml-list-request@inria.fr X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > It's the problem, that the number of tools evolving around OCaml is growing and growing, Is this just another interesting software evolution? > and some developers, who already are used in one of them use them > without writing the nice Makefile as a wrapper. Can build systems work also without such wrappers? > So, if you want to write packages for the OS's, and if you know one of the tools, > it's not enough. It depends on some factors, doesn't it? > You have to know them all, just to create the package. Which packages will require to fiddle with more build tools than you feel comfortable with at the moment? > That's an extra effort for the one who wants to package, just because the > developer who already knows it's tool of choice is not willing to wrap the > stuff into a Makefile. This data format can trigger also specific development challenges when you care for software portability. > I'm happy with OCamlMakefile. Would you like to discuss its system constraints any further? Regards, Markus -- Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list https://inbox.ocaml.org/caml-list Forum: https://discuss.ocaml.org/ Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs