RE: AW: [Caml-list] Working Group: the future of syntax extensions in OCaml, after camlp4

[Simon Cruanes <simon.cruanes.2007@m4x.org>]

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I like the idea of inline lexer/parsers. A problem I have with ocamllex/ocamlyacc is the fact that circular dependencies prevent from using/exporting a parser for some type in the same module where this type is defined. Inline parsers would allow to keep the type and its parser(s) defined together. First-class parsers, even better, would be great for composition.

Cheers, 
-- 
Simon


Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> a écrit :

>
>I worked on a commercial project written in OCaml in Q4 2012 that used
>stream parsing. However, my project was to translate the whole thing
>into
>F#...
>
>I never used stream parsing in any commercial code I wrote myself. I
>did use
>camlp4 quite a bit though and, I must say, the only problem I had was
>that
>it was never finished (the docs end in "..."!). Moreover, my main
>practical
>application of camlp4 was in using it to write parsers. Parsers written
>using Camlp4 are nicer than with any other tool I have ever used. Would
>be a
>shame if OCaml lost this or, if it did, gained the ability to write
>lex/yacc
>in-line without having to battle with multi-stage compilation and a
>wide
>selection of incomplete/broken build tools.
>
>Cheers,
>Jon.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: caml-list-request@inria.fr [mailto:caml-list-request@inria.fr]
>On
>Behalf
>> Of Alain Frisch
>> Sent: 28 January 2013 12:15
>> To: Gerd Stolpmann
>> Cc: Daniel Bünzli; caml-list; wg-camlp4@lists.ocaml.org; Leo P White;
>Anil
>> Madhavapeddy
>> Subject: Re: AW: [Caml-list] Working Group: the future of syntax
>extensions in
>> OCaml, after camlp4
>> 
>> On 01/24/2013 05:24 PM, Gerd Stolpmann wrote:
>> > It's used in the tool, but only for stream parsing. I could also
>> > distribute the already-preprocessed file (and maybe I'll do so in
>the
>> > next release).
>> >
>> > Stream parsing is certainly one of the topics to discuss.
>> 
>> I've no idea how widely stream parsing is used.  Has anyone some
>intuition
>> about this?
>> 
>> Stream parsers probably fall in the same category as bitstring or
>sedlex
>(custom
>> notions of pattern matching).  It seems that stream parsers (which
>I'm not
>> familiar with) require to be able to write expressions within
>"left-hand
>sides",
>> which might require special support.  Or maybe the whole left-hand
>sides
>should
>> just be quotations.
>> 
>> Anyway, for a basic infrastructure tool such as ocamlfind, I'd
>probably
>advocate
>> for a "manual" solution which works out of the box with a basic OCaml
>> installation (ocamlyacc or manual top-down parser).  Gerd: does that
>sound
>> reasonable to you?
>> 
>> 
>> Alain
>> 
>> 
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