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Jones" Cc: Ocaml Mailing List , oliver@first.in-berlin.de, Julia Lawall , Yawar Amin Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20181207082651.6f2w5tpuiljb327p@annexia.org> References: <20181206122150.thwapr3vvudue35g@annexia.org> <20181206201823.m2ii6nm4m72qwyym@annexia.org> <20181207082651.6f2w5tpuiljb327p@annexia.org> X-Mailer: Airmail (528) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Build-/Installation-Tools - not enogh of them? Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?Daniel_B=C3=BCnzli?= X-Loop: caml-list@inria.fr X-Sequence: 17225 Errors-to: caml-list-owner@inria.fr Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: caml-list-request@inria.fr X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On 7 December 2018 at 09:26:51, Richard W.M. Jones (rich@annexia.org) wrote: > Most people who want per-user packaging are now using containers, > using the existing Linux distro package managers. I hope you realize this still doesn't solve the initial problem I mentioned (and is rather painful to work with as a developer). I'm afraid if system packagers would like their systems to be used for development they will need to focus quite a bit more on the developer user experience and interoperability. I'd be glad to see this happening but I'm afraid it's not. Best, Daniel -- Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management and archives: https://sympa.inria.fr/sympa/arc/caml-list https://inbox.ocaml.org/caml-list Forum: https://discuss.ocaml.org/ Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs