From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from concorde.inria.fr (concorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.39]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4508EBC6C for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:43:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com (wx-out-0506.google.com [66.249.82.224]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l3RDhDBY007044 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:43:14 +0200 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s16so970354wxc for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ch5No91WTlAB8cShUTnLNXARvwORWSpD4hdCXoQsKkhU3A6QYDjnkyXT+mZpFBetf243aJtUuJ8ey/JGxPESyfnfpuCds/NNqEAe0U3wbw8e54IR5B4fp+gDx+mkKh2ciSlJU1NAenvKQ54ydTQ05qBcVa93/QNfcb7F8AbSHOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ATRELb4j/6OGHpQ3xfMCa+DS2qbBX6MMMWm+U16PRCgmB7LDlIuYT8bbqoD65CCqU0aUo5FxarfboA2pWEw9YUtlGJtHxxqJCeCSYnFvhkBLnPUMaVetgIczQ/D2ZwpPdssokSzGa7o86IU5nK89zXj3GdqjbyW7Afrazauluqg= Received: by 10.78.193.19 with SMTP id q19mr899245huf.1177681392070; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.21.20 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 06:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:43:10 -0400 From: "Markus Mottl" To: "Xavier Leroy" Subject: Re: new+old Camlp4 Cc: "Martin Jambon" , "Diego Olivier FERNANDEZ PONS" , caml-list@inria.fr, skaller In-Reply-To: <4631BF33.6080407@inria.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <001401c785f3$3af5e890$6a7ba8c0@treble> <1177392571.10100.46.camel@rosella.wigram> <20070424122338.ozkvhzfhckcskkc4@webmail.etu.upmc.fr> <1177439118.6172.18.camel@rosella.wigram> <4631BF33.6080407@inria.fr> X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 4631FDF1.001 on concorde : j-chkmail score : X : 0/20 1 0.000 -> 1 X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 4631FDF1.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; markus:01 mottl:01 markus:01 mottl:01 camlp:01 camlp:01 enforces:01 stack:01 ocaml:01 wrote:01 delayed:01 macros:01 native:02 guess:04 xavier:06 On 4/27/07, Xavier Leroy wrote: > I agree with the need for documentation, but not with the timing you > propose. Release 3.10.0 has been delayed quite a bit already, and > 1- there is no reason to make users who do not depend on Camlp4 wait longer > for 3.10; I agree that there are probably many more users who do not depend on Camlp4 than ones that do. > 2- having the new Camlp4 officially released as part of 3.10.0 can only > facilitate the porting of Camlp4 macros and extensions. Well, I wouldn't exactly say that it facilitates it, but it certainly enforces it ;-) > Releasing both old and new Camlp4 as part of 3.10 is out of the > question, however. That would only delay the inevitable and would > waste a lot of our time to make such a release. We certainly understand that INRIA has limited resources and cannot afford the same level of support that a commercial company would provide. > The priorities are > 1- get 3.10.0 out of the door Finally we'll get stack backtraces for native code, which is an extremely important feature for production systems. I guess every OCaml-developer will be happy about that. > and 2- of course, provide more documentation on the new Camlp4. Please! Best regards, Markus -- Markus Mottl http://www.ocaml.info markus.mottl@gmail.com