From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from discorde.inria.fr (discorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.38]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A58BC0A for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:54:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from server2.thinkcrime.de (server2.thinkcrime.de [213.133.110.149]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2FIsFWa014872 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:54:16 +0100 Received: from hod-sarge-2005-10.lan.m-e-leypold.de (dslb-088-072-224-006.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.72.224.6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server2.thinkcrime.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DF4488176 for ; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:54:17 +0100 (CET) Received: by hod-sarge-2005-10.lan.m-e-leypold.de (Postfix, from userid 1003) id B1E64376C1; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:00:41 +0100 (CET) To: caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] slightly OT: anyone reading this list with Mutt? References: <45F87661.4020504@softhome.net> <45F94C51.8030100@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20070315171028.GA16314@localhost> <20070315172922.GB16314@localhost> Organization: Leypold, Software-Dienstleistungen und -Beratung From: caml-list@inria.fr Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:00:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20070315172922.GB16314@localhost> (Eric Cooper's message of "Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:29:22 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 45F99657.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; gnus:01 gnus:01 markus:01 'from':98 wars:98 caml-list:01 caml-list:01 writes:01 slightly:03 interpret:03 mutt:04 mutt:04 fix:04 context:04 context:04 Eric Cooper writes: > When I list-reply to a message on this list, my outgoing message > header gets set to > caml-list@yquem.inria.fr, caml-list@inria.fr > > When I notice it, I can manually delete one, but I often forget, > resulting in a duplicated post. > Does this happen to anyone else, and Yes, to me. > is there a fix? The mail client should interpret the List-ID header field (present in mails going through the inria list), know from that, that the mail came from a list and reply to the list. Perhaps there is a extra command in mutt which does this (like "reply to list"). Unfortunately this doesn't work if you have an imap server (like cyrus) which does duplicate elimination. Then the first mail that arrives (usually the copy adressed to you personally) doesn't carry the List-ID and the other copies you don't see at all :-). This is fundamentally broken and cannot be fixed, except heuristically. I've programmed Gnus to respect List-ID until I found the problem with the duplicate elimination. Then I stopped trying to bring sense into 'To:', 'CC:', 'List-ID', 'From:' whatever. There is no way to give any specific meaning to those fields. I even got "newsletter" mail that was apparently adressed to the sender (and then my Gnus always sets 'From' to that adress on reply: Arrgs! The only way I can see to handle this, is, to filter incoming mail with procmail, detect the list address in ANY of CC, From, To and tag the mail with a "list context". Replying should detect the list context and address all mails belonging to a list context to the list in question (one can use List-ID for the list-context or have a per-folder configuration). I know religious wars are made from how E-Mail list headers are done right. I don't want to start any, my comment should be construed as humble practical advice only. Regards -- Markus