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From: Jeffrey Scofield <jeffsco@psellos.com>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: [Caml-list] Re: Interfacing with C: bad practice
Date: 16 Aug 2011 15:18:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3liut1562.fsf@pse.psellos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1313524000.20782.6.camel@gps-desktop>

Gerd Stolpmann <info@gerd-stolpmann.de> writes:

> I don't know for SML, but OCaml also leaves the order unspecified in
> which function arguments are evaluated (and ocamlc and ocamlopt behave
> even differently in this respect). So I think the problem would
> translate to OCaml in some form.

This is a good point.

A problem with C (and almost every other language) is that there's a
lot of room for debate about what the *standard* means (as opposed to
the meaning of particular programs).  With the ML family you have a
formal framework (lambda calculus, I guess) that makes things quite
a bit less ambiguous.  You can still have unspecified parts of the
semantics, but at least it's clearer where the unspecified parts are!

I don't know offhand whether parameter evaluation order is defined
for Standard ML, either.  But there's a very clear specification that
you can look at to find out.  (It seems like the sort of thing that
would be defined in SML.)

Jeffrey


  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-16 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-16  7:37 [Caml-list] " Dmitry Bely
2011-08-16  8:04 ` Török Edwin
2011-08-16  8:25   ` Dmitry Bely
2011-08-16  8:43     ` Török Edwin
2011-08-16  9:46       ` rixed
2011-08-16  9:53         ` Dmitry Bely
2011-08-16 10:17           ` Török Edwin
2011-08-16 11:04             ` rixed
     [not found] ` <20110816.105738.246515733851238101.Christophe.Troestler@umons.ac.be>
2011-08-16  9:21   ` Dmitry Bely
2011-08-16 10:39     ` Mauricio Fernandez
2011-08-16 14:27       ` John Carr
2011-08-16 12:28 ` [Caml-list] " Dmitry Bely
2011-08-16 15:25 ` [Caml-list] " Richard W.M. Jones
2011-08-16 15:51   ` rixed
2011-08-16 16:00     ` Will M. Farr
2011-08-16 16:10     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-08-16 16:17       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-08-16 16:18       ` Dmitry Bely
2011-08-16 16:22         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-08-16 16:27           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-08-16 16:30             ` malc
2011-08-16 16:34             ` Török Edwin
2011-08-16 16:47               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-08-16 16:55               ` [Caml-list] " Jeffrey Scofield
2011-08-16 17:08                 ` Will M. Farr
2011-08-16 19:46                 ` Gerd Stolpmann
2011-08-16 20:18                   ` Jeffrey Scofield [this message]
2011-08-16 17:08       ` [Caml-list] " rixed
2011-08-16 16:06   ` John Carr
2011-08-16 16:14     ` Wojciech Meyer
2011-08-16 16:13   ` Dmitry Bely

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