From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from discorde.inria.fr (discorde.inria.fr [192.93.2.38]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DC5BC0A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:05:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from server2.thinkcrime.de (server2.thinkcrime.de [213.133.110.149]) by discorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l2BF5h46019294 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:05:44 +0100 Received: from hod-sarge-2005-10.lan.m-e-leypold.de (dslb-088-074-063-215.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.74.63.215]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server2.thinkcrime.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D34488036 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:05:42 +0100 (CET) Received: by hod-sarge-2005-10.lan.m-e-leypold.de (Postfix, from userid 1003) id BE669376C2; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:11:57 +0100 (CET) To: OCaml Mailing List Subject: Re: [Caml-list] ocaml-developer mailing-list: subscribe now! References: <78295CB6-B05B-4AF1-9AD5-AE7A8E7B42FA@epfl.ch> Organization: Leypold, Software-Dienstleistungen und -Beratung From: ls-ocaml-developer-2006@m-e-leypold.de Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:11:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Martin Jambon's message of "Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:32:07 -0800 (PST)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Miltered: at discorde with ID 45F41AC8.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; ens-lyon:01 bunzli:01 ocaml:01 ocaml:01 skipping:01 threads:01 skipping:01 sml:01 markus:01 2007,:98 mitigate:98 boredom:98 wrote:01 faq:01 caml-list:01 Martin Jambon writes: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2007, Daniel B=FCnzli wrote: > >> Le 9 mars 07 =E0 21:02, Martin Jambon a =E9crit : >> >>> The Caml mailing list is intended for all users of the Caml >>> implementations developed at INRIA. The purpose of this list is to >>> share experience, exchange ideas and code, and report on >>> applications of the Caml language. >> >> I don't see why these topics cannot be discussed here. >> >> I would see the point of a domain specific mailing-list (e.g. web >> development in ocaml) but ocaml-developer seems like caml-list-2 to >> me. >> >> Could you perhaps motivate the point of your initiative ? > > 1) Less traffic Well -- if I subscribe to both lists, I'd have quite the same traffic and 2 groups to sort in my mail client instead of one. I also have 1 more group to search for ocaml related thread topics I rememebr but not quite where I read them. If I only subscribe to one list I'll miss traffic which is not clearly distinguished topically between those 2 lists. Either way, I loose. The community fragments. I prefer 1 stop shops and just skipping manually new threads I don't like: With a threaded news/mail reader and 1 new thread per day that is not a problem. > 2) Skipping all the unnecessary "language geekiness" stuff And that cannot be done by hand so that we have to split the community? > To a newcomer, caml-list looks a lot like a forum for programming > language researchers,=20 Well -- perhaps a regular posting of a mailing list FAQ or the list charta would help to mitigate that impression. Your action, if successful will probably draw traffic from the caml-list and make it "look like" as if the popularity of ocaml has furtther declined (and BTW: This fragmentation in mailing lists has been a problem to the public perception of SML). > which is cool, but not being able to understand > 2/3 of the messages is kind of intimidating for someone who thought > he/she knew OCaml. Surprise: There is lots to learn. Actually I'd call that a chance or a challenge as opposed to boredom and ennui. Regards -- Markus