From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on yquem.inria.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.3 X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DC3BC69 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 01:28:51 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAADCA0fAoDNMn2dsb2JhbACONwEBAQEHBAYHCBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,226,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="17259982" Received: from concorde.inria.fr ([192.93.2.39]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2007 01:28:51 +0200 Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by concorde.inria.fr (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l93NSoQN027058 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 01:28:50 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAADCA0fAoDNMn2dsb2JhbACONwEBAQEHBAYHCBg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,226,1188770400"; d="scan'208";a="17259981" Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (HELO smtp-bedford.mitre.org) ([192.160.51.76]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 04 Oct 2007 01:28:49 +0200 Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id l93Ndlct005295 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:39:47 -0400 Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC791BF7C for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l93NdktG005289; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:39:46 -0400 Received: from oolong.mitre.org (oolong.mitre.org [129.83.162.84]) by linus.mitre.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l93NSlxu020919; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:28:47 -0400 (EDT) To: skaller Cc: guttman@mitre.org (Joshua D. Guttman), caml-list@inria.fr Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Unsoundness is essential Reply-To: guttman@mitre.org (Joshua D. Guttman) References: <20071003083529.40DA2A99F@Adric.metnet.fnmoc.navy.mil> <4703FDEF.7030900@univ-savoie.fr> <1191451810.7218.86.camel@rosella.wigram> From: "Joshua D. Guttman" Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:28:47 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1191451810.7218.86.camel@rosella.wigram> (skaller@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:50:10 +1000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Miltered: at concorde with ID 470425B2.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-Spam: no; 0.00; sourceforge:01 integer:01 caml-list:01 writes:01 theorem:02 strong:96 programming:03 guttman:04 guttman:04 unsound:07 differently:07 describe:07 attributes:08 necessarily:12 joshua:12 skaller writes: > Goedel's theorem says that any type system strong enough > to describe integer programming is necessarily unsound. Are you sure that's what it *says*? I thought I remembered it stated differently. Poor old guy. Worked so hard to be precise, and now everybody attributes all sorts of things to him. Joshua -- Joshua D. Guttman The MITRE Corporation