caml-list - the Caml user's mailing list
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Alan Post <apost@recalcitrant.org>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: [Caml-list] licensing (was Re: GODI (was: CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?)))
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:35:04 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrnbhp8os.88u.apost@recalcitrant.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <JHELJHNLBEFIOPJEFEEKGEBPCAAA.bdbkun@wanadoo.fr>

> Not that I think that we should take over development of O'CaML, but
> the "-pack" option does not seem to help avoiding nameclash and I
> don't want to just complain about it...

You are actually not permitted by the license to "take over
development of O'CaML".  In practice, this means that it is indeed
very important what the INRIA folks think about any given issue.

  http://caml.inria.fr/ocaml/LICENSE.html

This page explains that ocaml compiler is licensed under the QPL,
rather than the GPL, because "proper attribution of results is crucial
in the research world."  Would any INRIA folks care to elaborate on
this?  I really haven't heard about cases where an academic didn't get
tenure because her free software project was forked.  I'm not an
academic, so perhaps I just don't hear about such events.

The page also says,

  We are aware that this clause of the QPL (distribution of modified
  versions as patches) can become uncomfortable for the development of
  programs derived from the OCaml compilers and tools. If so, consider
  becoming a member of the Caml Consortium: members of the Consortium
  benefit from less restrictive licensing conditions.

Though presumably the >= 2000 Euro license does not allow the
redistribution of modified ocaml compiler sources, either.

I would guess that the Caml Consortium license is aimed at
proprietary, binary-distribution forks of ocaml.  Note that a GPLed
public release of the ocaml compiler would not interfere with this
revenue source.


The page does not mention what will happen when INRIA stops funding
ocaml development.  If I understand correctly, it is INRIA as an
entity, rather than the ocaml developers, who owns the copyright to
the ocaml compiler.  An example of what can happen is qmail:  I
believe there have been no releases since 15 June 1998, leading to a
maze of patches.


I searched the list archives, and found much discussion of the library
license (the complications of the LGPL), but not much about ocaml
compiler licensing.  Twice, people asked about it:

  http://caml.inria.fr/archives/200111/msg00478.html
  http://caml.inria.fr/archives/200111/msg00464.html

but both questions went unanswered.

I'd be very interested to hear more about this.


-------------------
To unsubscribe, mail caml-list-request@inria.fr Archives: http://caml.inria.fr
Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs FAQ: http://caml.inria.fr/FAQ/
Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners


  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-22  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-15 18:09 [Caml-list] CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?) Richard Jones
2003-07-15 18:37 ` Erik Arneson
2003-07-18  8:08   ` John Max Skaller
2003-07-16  3:13 ` BdB
2003-07-16  3:22   ` Alexander V. Voinov
2003-07-16  5:53     ` Issac Trotts
2003-07-16  6:43       ` BdB
2003-07-16  7:07         ` Wolfgang Müller
2003-07-16  9:22         ` Richard Jones
2003-07-16  9:51           ` Wolfgang Müller
2003-07-17  8:42         ` Florian Hars
2003-07-16  6:52   ` Florian Hars
2003-07-18  8:14 ` John Max Skaller
2003-07-18  8:42   ` Richard Jones
2003-07-18 15:46     ` Stefano Zacchiroli
2003-07-18 20:49       ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2003-07-19 11:25         ` Daniel Bünzli
2003-07-19 19:47           ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2003-07-18 14:29   ` Shawn Wagner
2003-07-19 11:55     ` [Caml-list] GODI (was: CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?)) Gerd Stolpmann
2003-07-19 12:18       ` Fernando Alegre
2003-07-19 12:38         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-07-19 13:20           ` Fernando Alegre
2003-07-19 22:58             ` Kip Macy
2003-07-19 20:05           ` [Caml-list] GODI Yamagata Yoriyuki
2003-07-19 20:40           ` [Caml-list] GODI (was: CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?)) BdB
2003-07-20  9:55             ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-07-20 18:30               ` Christian Lindig
2003-07-21 16:19                 ` james woodyatt
2003-07-21 16:32                   ` Richard Jones
2003-07-21 16:37                     ` Richard Jones
2003-07-21 20:37                     ` james woodyatt
2003-07-21 21:48                     ` BdB
2003-07-22 20:48                   ` Christian Lindig
2003-07-22  0:01                 ` BdB
2003-07-22  2:35                   ` Alan Post [this message]
2003-07-22  7:57                     ` [Caml-list] licensing (was Re: GODI (was: CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?))) Dominique Quatravaux
2003-07-22  8:02                     ` BdB
2003-07-22 15:29                   ` [Caml-list] GODI Yamagata Yoriyuki
2003-07-20 23:11               ` Yamagata Yoriyuki
2003-07-21 12:01                 ` Fernando Alegre
2003-07-23  9:35       ` [Caml-list] GODI (was: CTAN/CPAN for Caml (COCAN ...?)) Xavier Leroy
2003-07-23 13:20         ` Gerd Stolpmann
2003-07-24 16:34           ` Eray Ozkural
2003-07-23 17:56         ` David Brown
2003-07-23 18:36           ` Fernando Alegre

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=slrnbhp8os.88u.apost@recalcitrant.org \
    --to=apost@recalcitrant.org \
    --cc=caml-list@inria.fr \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).