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From: Sylvain Le Gall <sylvain@le-gall.net>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [ANN] OCaml Reins 0.1 - Persistent Data	Structure Library)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:47:13 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrnffl38h.3nv.sylvain@gallu.homelinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrnffkcu3.3nv.sylvain@gallu.homelinux.org>

On 26-09-2007, Sylvain Le Gall <sylvain@le-gall.net> wrote:
> On 26-09-2007, Daniel Bünzli <daniel.buenzli@epfl.ch> wrote:
>>
>> Le 26 sept. 07 à 01:33, Sylvain Le Gall a écrit :
>>
>>> Anyway, embeding any external code into your project is a nightmare  
>>> for
>>> security/maintenance in the long term... I would avoid this  
>>> solution if
>>> i want things that doesn't have problem.
>>
>> As I explained I don't think so. In the best case you delegate the  
>> nightmare to the user. Can you explain exactly where the nightmare is  
>> with embedding ? If the distributed modules you integrate are  
>> labelled with a version, I don't see it. The work needed for  
>> maintenance in the long term is exactly the same, except only the  
>> developer has to care. As for security updates in ocaml, you cannot  
>> anyway rely on dynamic linking. Which I see as a good thing, for  
>> applications dynamic linking creates more problems than it solves and  
>> should be avoided most of the time (except of course for system  
>> libraries).
>>
>
> OK, let me make myself clear, about the fact that embedding things is
> the worst case. Let consider library libA and program progB, progB
> requires libA:
> * libA is embedded inside progB:
> ** libA do a minor bug correction -> you need to re-release progB even if
>   nothing has changed inside it 
> ** you make a bug correction in libA, as many developers you don't have
>   time to submit bug upstream -> libA upstream and libA embedded begin to
>   be different
> * libA is not embedded inside progB:
> ** libA do a minor bug correction -> progB just need to be recompiled
>    (no release), easy to do automatically with a dependency tracking
> ** you make a bug correction in libA -> you have no choice than to
>    report it to upstream libA, because your bug correction will disappear
>    in next libA release
>

Forget the best "worst case".

You ship libA -- with a local modification in libB. A developper want to
use libA (original -- no modification) and libB...

Is it possible ?

I think you will have a conflict between the two version (.cmi exists
with different signatures)...

So by shipping libA with modification, you cannot use libA into another
library...

Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-26 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-25 18:53 [ANN] OCaml Reins 0.1 - Persistent Data Structure Library Mike Furr
2007-09-25 19:14 ` [Caml-list] " Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-25 19:30   ` Mike Furr
2007-09-25 22:16     ` Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] OCaml Reins 0.1 - Persistent Data Structure Library) Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-25 23:33       ` Cherry-picking modules (was " Sylvain Le Gall
2007-09-26  6:41         ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-09-26  7:22         ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26  8:19           ` skaller
2007-09-26  8:30             ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26  8:58               ` skaller
2007-09-26  9:49                 ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26 10:26           ` Sylvain Le Gall
2007-09-26 11:45             ` [Caml-list] " Jim Miller
2007-09-26 12:37               ` Sylvain Le Gall
2007-09-27 10:11               ` [Caml-list] " Richard Jones
2007-09-26 12:22             ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26 12:58             ` skaller
2007-09-26 16:47             ` Sylvain Le Gall [this message]
2007-09-26 22:38             ` Vincent Aravantinos
2007-09-26 22:41               ` Vincent Aravantinos
2007-09-26  6:19       ` Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-09-26 15:08         ` Michael Furr
2007-09-26 17:12           ` skaller
2007-09-26 17:53             ` Mike Furr
2007-09-26 19:16               ` skaller
2007-10-05 14:42               ` Adrien
2007-10-05 14:58                 ` Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] OCaml Reins 0.1- " Christoph Bauer
2007-10-05 15:21                   ` Adrien
2007-10-05 19:45                     ` Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] OCaml Reins0.1- " David Allsopp
2007-10-05  3:48         ` Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [Caml-list] [ANN] OCaml Reins 0.1 - " Nathaniel Gray
2007-09-26  7:03       ` Maxence Guesdon
2007-09-26  7:44         ` skaller
2007-09-26  8:53           ` Maxence Guesdon
2007-09-26 10:05             ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26  8:17         ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26 15:32       ` Michael Furr
2007-09-26 15:50         ` Vincent Aravantinos
2007-09-26 16:42           ` Cherry-picking modules (was " Sylvain Le Gall
2007-09-26 17:38             ` [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-09-26 17:57             ` Vincent Aravantinos
2007-09-26 17:22         ` Cherry-picking modules (was Re: [Caml-list] " skaller
2007-09-26 18:17         ` Daniel Bünzli
2007-09-26 18:45           ` Mike Furr
2007-09-26 19:21           ` skaller
2007-09-26  5:51 ` ExtLib, etc. " David Teller
2007-09-26 20:37 ` [Caml-list] [ANN] OCaml Reins 0.1 - Persistent Data Structure Library Mike Furr

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