* Re: [Caml-list] [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site
2010-03-01 13:07 [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site Marco Maggi
@ 2010-03-01 13:12 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2010-03-01 13:13 ` David Allsopp
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From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby @ 2010-03-01 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
> Marco Maggi <marco.maggi-ipsu@poste.it> :
> I am a True Beginner taking a look at O'Caml; I hope not
> to be abusing by posting here rather than the beginners
> list.
You are a beginner (you told), you know there is a beginner list, and
you apoligize for not using it.
> I think I successfully compiled ocaml-3.11.2 on my
> i686-pc-linux-gnu,
what about installing from your system package management first?
Are you using Debian or Ubuntu?
"apt-get install ocaml" and you're done.
Are you using Fedora?
"yum install ocaml" and you're done.
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2010-03-01 13:07 [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site Marco Maggi
2010-03-01 13:12 ` [Caml-list] " Mihamina Rakotomandimby
@ 2010-03-01 13:13 ` David Allsopp
2010-03-01 19:32 ` Marco Maggi
2010-03-01 13:28 ` [Caml-list] " Mark Shinwell
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From: David Allsopp @ 2010-03-01 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Marco Maggi', caml-list
Marco Maggi wrote:
> Ciao,
>
> I am a True Beginner taking a look at O'Caml; I hope not to be
> abusing by posting here rather than the beginners list.
Building OCaml from source is definitely not a beginners' question! :o)
> I think I successfully compiled ocaml-3.11.2 on my
> i686-pc-linux-gnu, but there seems to be no way to install the package
> in a temporary location via the Linux de facto standard DESTDIR
> environment variable; is there a way to do it? (I am used to build
> custom packages.)
I've not come across that way before (by which I mean "you learn a new thing
every day"!), the more usual way, which will work with OCaml, is to specify
a different root for the -prefix option when you run configure. make install
will then install OCaml there. I used to use that when compiling uses OCaml
on a machine for which I didn't have root and I used it just the other day
to compile OCaml 3.12.0 on Maemo so the switch definitely works.
All that said, what distro are you using? Debian and Fedora (and *BSD) all
have native packages for OCaml.
> The web site[1] is beautiful (no irony) but a lot of
> informations look outdated, 4/5 years old; I see many O'Caml related
> sites on the Net. Is there one that I can take as reference for the
> latest news, for example about still maintained library packages?
The Caml Hump I believe has up-to-date information as long as it's
submitted. I'm quite lazy and tend only to look for updates to libraries I
use when either I hit a bug or am installing on a new machine ...
www.ocamlcore.org is a pretty good place to start, I think.
David
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2010-03-01 13:13 ` David Allsopp
@ 2010-03-01 19:32 ` Marco Maggi
2010-03-01 19:37 ` Marco Maggi
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From: Marco Maggi @ 2010-03-01 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: David Allsopp; +Cc: caml-list
"David Allsopp" wrote:
> the more usual way, which will work with OCaml, is to
> specify a different root for the -prefix option when you
> run configure.
Yes. It worked (it seems) by doing:
$ ./configure -prefix "${prefix}" ...
$ make world
$ make bootstrap
$ make opt
$ ./configure -prefix "${DESTDIR}${prefix}"
$ make install
> All that said, what distro are you using? Debian and
> Fedora (and *BSD) all have native packages for OCaml.
Slackware.
> The Caml Hump I believe has up-to-date information as long
> as it's submitted. [...] www.ocamlcore.org is a pretty
> good place to start, I think.
Understood (IMHO submissions more than 3 years old should be
removed). So am I correct in saying that MLGMP is orphaned
and no maintained GMP/MPFR/... package exists?
--
Marco Maggi
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* Re: [Caml-list] [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site
2010-03-01 13:07 [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site Marco Maggi
2010-03-01 13:12 ` [Caml-list] " Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2010-03-01 13:13 ` David Allsopp
@ 2010-03-01 13:28 ` Mark Shinwell
2010-03-01 13:36 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-03-01 14:44 ` [Caml-list] " Peng Zang
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From: Mark Shinwell @ 2010-03-01 13:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Maggi; +Cc: caml-list
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 02:07:45PM +0100, Marco Maggi wrote:
> I think I successfully compiled ocaml-3.11.2 on my
> i686-pc-linux-gnu, but there seems to be no way to install
> the package in a temporary location via the Linux de facto
> standard DESTDIR environment variable; is there a way to do
> it? (I am used to build custom packages.)
If I understand correctly, in autoconf-style setups, the contents of
the DESTDIR variable are prepended to the configured prefix to obtain the
paths used for installation. Thus you might install to /tmp/usr/bin/ocamlopt
even though the compiler is configured for /usr.
Unfortunately I don't believe the Caml build system supports such a feature.
One possible way of doing it might be to run "make install" inside a chroot,
but you would likely need a lot of additional tools present inside the chroot
for that to work.
As another poster has said, it's probably best to use the distribution
packages if possible, or else just directly write into the installation
location (using ./configure -prefix /path/to/install/dir).
Mark
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* Re: [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site
2010-03-01 13:07 [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site Marco Maggi
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2010-03-01 13:28 ` [Caml-list] " Mark Shinwell
@ 2010-03-01 13:36 ` Sylvain Le Gall
2010-03-01 14:44 ` [Caml-list] " Peng Zang
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From: Sylvain Le Gall @ 2010-03-01 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
Hello,
On 01-03-2010, Marco Maggi <marco.maggi-ipsu@poste.it> wrote:
> Ciao,
>
> I am a True Beginner taking a look at O'Caml; I hope not
> to be abusing by posting here rather than the beginners
> list.
>
> I think I successfully compiled ocaml-3.11.2 on my
> i686-pc-linux-gnu, but there seems to be no way to install
> the package in a temporary location via the Linux de facto
> standard DESTDIR environment variable; is there a way to do
> it? (I am used to build custom packages.)
>
If you are really a beginner, I will really recommend to you using your
distribution OCaml packages, no matter if its ocaml 3.10.2 or 3.11.2.
Debian and Fedora provide packages (apt-get install ocaml on Debian).
> The web site[1] is beautiful (no irony) but a lot of
> informations look outdated, 4/5 years old; I see many O'Caml
> related sites on the Net. Is there one that I can take as
> reference for the latest news, for example about still
> maintained library packages?
>
> [1] <http://caml.inria.fr/>
caml.inria.fr and the Hump is a pretty good place to start:
http://caml.inria.fr/cgi-bin/hump.fr.cgi
The site available here are also good points to start with:
http://caml.inria.fr/resources/index.fr.html
and especially
http://www.ocaml-tutorial.org/
Then you have ocamlcore.org related websites:
- http://www.ocamlcore.org: entry point of ocamlcore.org
- http://planet.ocamlcore.org: for the latest (general) news of the
OCaml community
- http://forge.ocamlcore.org: participate to various OCaml projects
or create your own
Regards,
Sylvain Le Gall
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2010-03-01 13:07 [newbie] miscellaneous on installation and web site Marco Maggi
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2010-03-01 13:36 ` Sylvain Le Gall
@ 2010-03-01 14:44 ` Peng Zang
2010-03-02 6:04 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
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From: Peng Zang @ 2010-03-01 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Maggi; +Cc: caml-list
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The best way to compile and install OCaml (in my opinion) is via GODI. The
GODI installation instructions are clear and allow you to specify where the
install should go. Once installed, it's also easy to get all the other
libraries you might want to use.
Peng
On Monday 01 March 2010 08:07:45 am Marco Maggi wrote:
> Ciao,
>
> I am a True Beginner taking a look at O'Caml; I hope not
> to be abusing by posting here rather than the beginners
> list.
>
> I think I successfully compiled ocaml-3.11.2 on my
> i686-pc-linux-gnu, but there seems to be no way to install
> the package in a temporary location via the Linux de facto
> standard DESTDIR environment variable; is there a way to do
> it? (I am used to build custom packages.)
>
> The web site[1] is beautiful (no irony) but a lot of
> informations look outdated, 4/5 years old; I see many O'Caml
> related sites on the Net. Is there one that I can take as
> reference for the latest news, for example about still
> maintained library packages?
>
> TIA
>
> [1] <http://caml.inria.fr/>
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2010-03-01 14:44 ` [Caml-list] " Peng Zang
@ 2010-03-02 6:04 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
2010-03-02 14:02 ` Ashish Agarwal
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From: Mihamina Rakotomandimby @ 2010-03-02 6:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: caml-list
> Peng Zang <peng.zang@gmail.com> :
> The best way to compile and install OCaml (in my opinion) is via GODI.
Why?
How to install GODI?
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2010-03-02 6:04 ` Mihamina Rakotomandimby
@ 2010-03-02 14:02 ` Ashish Agarwal
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From: Ashish Agarwal @ 2010-03-02 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mihamina Rakotomandimby; +Cc: caml-list
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> Why?
> How to install GODI?
GODI is a very nice package management system for OCaml, making it trivial
to install both OCaml and most OCaml libraries that are in common use. It
automatically downloads and installs libraries, and checks for
dependencies. I would recommend using it, unless perhaps if you are on one
of the previously mentioned OS's that already have good support for OCaml in
their native package management systems. Follow the link below, download
RocketBoost on the right, and follow the instructions. You can post to the
Beginner's List if you run into any trouble.
http://godi.camlcity.org/
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina@gulfsat.mg
> wrote:
> > Peng Zang <peng.zang@gmail.com> :
> > The best way to compile and install OCaml (in my opinion) is via GODI.
>
> Why?
> How to install GODI?
>
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