From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DFCBBAF for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:08:10 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQGAJrsTExQW+UMgWdsb2JhbACTGYxHFQEBFiIiiBe2KoU2BIQugyWBEQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.55,260,1278280800"; d="scan'208";a="64407430" Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by mail1-smtp-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2010 11:08:10 +0200 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OdJfN-0005eD-Da for caml-list@inria.fr; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:08:09 +0200 Received: from ks368928.kimsufi.com ([94.23.39.26]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:08:09 +0200 Received: from sylvain by ks368928.kimsufi.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:08:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: caml-list@inria.fr From: Sylvain Le Gall Subject: Re: scalable web apps Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <863869.15208.qm@web111515.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ks368928.kimsufi.com User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-11 (Linux) X-Spam: no; 0.00; le-gall:01 scalable:01 trivial:01 struct:01 scm:98 scm:98 wrote:01 wrote:01 checking:02 python:03 languages:03 languages:03 programming:03 root:04 root:04 Hello, On 25-07-2010, Yoann Padioleau wrote: > On Jul 25, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Dario Teixeira wrote: >> >> >>> Or if you prefer think of it this way: People are using really >>> unsuitable languages (PHP) and really slow languages (Ruby, PHP, >>> Python, Perl) on some massive websites out there. >> >> Yeap. Personally, I find Ocsigen's greatest advantage to be the safety >> and expressiveness that it brings to backend programming (and soon also >> to the frontend). The fact that it's also fast is just icing on the cake... > > My biggest issue with OCsigen is the lack of documentation and examples. > With rails you got lots of books, and you got example of non trivial websites > like a mini amazon (called depot: http://pragprog.com/titles/rails2/source_code) > in less than 2000 lines of code. > There are examples of ocsigen websites: http://ocsigen.org/ocsimore/sources/ https://forge.ocamlcore.org/scm/viewvc.php/?root=ocsforge http://ocsigen.org/ocsigenserver/sources/examples You could even found some of them outside ocsigen websites: https://forge.ocamlcore.org/scm/viewvc.php/?root=lambdoc http://github.com/mfp/ocsiblog But, I think the documentation issue is a chicken and egg problem. If more people are interested in ocsigen, the documentation will improve... I am experimenting with ocsigen since one month and I think it is a good framework. It provides a good type checking of HTML struct, errors outputted are not very clear, but you know where the problem is. Regards, Sylvain Le Gall