From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Original-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Delivered-To: caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Received: from mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr (mail4-relais-sop.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.105]) by yquem.inria.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38B62BBAF for ; Thu, 6 May 2010 00:36:32 +0200 (CEST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjICAEGP4UtKfVK0mGdsb2JhbACQeYxSCBUBAQEBAQgJDAcRIq4qggCFMy6ITgEBAwWFDgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,336,1270418400"; d="scan'208";a="62257231" Received: from mail-wy0-f180.google.com ([74.125.82.180]) by mail4-smtp-sop.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 06 May 2010 00:36:31 +0200 Received: by wyb29 with SMTP id 29so3407665wyb.39 for ; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8Gfutv9v9YYp9+H8a5P8z2FgoHgCnP6/Yf/ynqzdh/o=; b=afZSamF9Pf/UrS2peLXa03+srVYv3MmTC49tT71rlAU9Mu52fkhlhb2hYPiU0o9WHL E9YKc2vpV/ffAUgzf/Rdvsk7WwS9nU0Jr7PcPiJiBPJF3TDpNUXkEHJZK8YDT2WoSGF+ uljipuyKFFHiLVt4gopRcSKDCFcWjiysPLJTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xh1AwKIKeq3a0Co8qwTY8J4BMsUb84DfNvqXKt2brkyFrGxmxvkLuMWZcu6vz3ZCcl IJ0Ecua+pA8L6kS2EPZHFLi844uvuGGk/768agBWFE/4hcmbQRWXRNBmCztWEbcOb9tX ef5JcgvUUBr6ta9ee3WCHvoC4OFZjSfIJ7ogA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.158.65 with SMTP id p43mr388617wek.50.1273098991417; Wed, 05 May 2010 15:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.28.72 with HTTP; Wed, 5 May 2010 15:36:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <698DAC90-16B7-452B-B43D-B5A708380231@gmail.com> References: <951508.20587.qm@web58708.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <698DAC90-16B7-452B-B43D-B5A708380231@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 18:36:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Caml-list] about OcamIL From: ben kuin To: Vincent Aravantinos , caml-list@yquem.inria.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam: no; 0.00; labltk:01 lablgtk:01 bindings:01 doable:01 eray:01 ozkural:01 ocaml:01 eray:01 ocaml:01 beginner's:01 bug:01 4.2:98 10,:98 beginners:01 wrote:01 I think the main problem is the lack of cross platform gui that looks good on windows. LablTk: ok only for simple gui LablGtk: fragile on linux, bad on windows qt: I once tried to create bindings for a newer qt release ( > 4.2), I didn't finished it, but I think it would be doable. The big problem though is the huge qt dependency with this blackboxy C++/moc thing . On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Vincent Aravantinos wrote: > > Le 5 mai 10 =E0 21:16, Ed Keith a =E9crit : > >> --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Eray Ozkural wrote: >> >>> Or use the real ocaml on a real OS >>> (^_^) >>> >> >> I do not understand UNIX bigotry. >> >> Yes, Unix is technically superior to Windows. But Plan 9 is technically >> superior to Unix. But I doubt Eray is running Plan 9. >> >> More computers run Windows than all other OS's combined. If you want a >> large user base you need to support Windows. If you do not care about th= e >> size of your user base, write for Plan 9. >> >> Personalty I try to support as many systems as practical. >> >> It bothers me that the Ocaml community seems to consider Windows >> developers as second class citizens. Until this changes Ocaml will never= be >> a main stream language. F# may eat it's lunch. But F# is tied to Windows= , >> Ocaml has the potential to be multi-platform. I just wish it would live = up >> to this potential. > > I guess you shouldn't take some stup** trollism as representing the whole > community thinking though. > I am not a Windows user but this kind of "Windows sucks" remark pisses me > off. > > Still, it's a fact that it's hard to use ocaml on Windows but there are > frequently some posts on this list showing that many ocamlers do care abo= ut > Windows. > The Ocaml Team explicitly requests some help of windows users to test the > releases because they know it's a downside of ocaml. > I think this shows that they really seem to care about it and try to > improve. > > V. > _______________________________________________ > Caml-list mailing list. Subscription management: > http://yquem.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/caml-list > Archives: http://caml.inria.fr > Beginner's list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ocaml_beginners > Bug reports: http://caml.inria.fr/bin/caml-bugs >