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From: Alex Simpson <als@inf.ed.ac.uk>
To: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 03:57:45 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1043639865.3e34ae39d965f@mail.inf.ed.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1030125161300.21285A-100000@siskin.dpmms.cam.ac.uk>


Peter Johnstone writes:

> I'm sorry, but this won't do. In a topos, equality is equality; you
> can't
> treat it "lazily". So a Cauchy real has to be an equivalence class of
> Cauchy sequences, and there is in general no way of choosing a
> canonical representative for it. Markov's principle would, I think
> (I haven't checked the details), suffice to give a canonical
> representation as a binary expansion with no infinite sequence of
> 1's,

In fact not. Markov's principle holds in the effective topos, and
there, unless I'm much mistaken, it is not even true that the map from
binary representations to Cauchy (= Dedekind) reals in [0,1] is epi,
let alone split epi.

Alex Simpson

Alex Simpson, LFCS, Division of Informatics, Univ. of Edinburgh
Email: Alex.Simpson@ed.ac.uk           Tel: +44 (0)131 650 5113
Web: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/als  Fax: +44 (0)131 667 7209






  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-27  3:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-15 14:00 Generalization of Browder's F.P. Theorem? Peter McBurney
2003-01-16 14:04 ` Steven J Vickers
2003-01-16 23:00   ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-16 23:05   ` Michael Barr
2003-01-21 18:11     ` Andrej Bauer
2003-01-22 10:13       ` Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals Martin Escardo
2003-01-22 23:33         ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-23 19:56           ` Category Theory in Biology Peter McBurney
2003-01-24  8:51           ` Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals Martin Escardo
2003-01-25  2:21             ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-25 16:24               ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-27  3:57                 ` Alex Simpson [this message]
2003-01-23  6:29         ` Vaughan Pratt
2003-02-04  0:47           ` Vaughan Pratt
2003-02-05 16:06             ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-23  9:50         ` Mamuka Jibladze
2003-01-24  1:34         ` Ross Street
2003-01-24 16:56       ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-24 19:48         ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-27 17:41 Andrej Bauer
2003-01-28  1:50 ` Alex Simpson
2003-01-28  9:44 Andrej Bauer
2003-01-28 20:51 Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-29  2:00 ` Toby Bartels
2003-01-29  8:35 ` Alex Simpson
2003-02-04  9:15   ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-02-05 20:56     ` Toby Bartels

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