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From: John Longley <jrl@inf.ed.ac.uk>
To: Peter Lietz <lietz@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
Cc: categories <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re:  Realizability and Partial Combinatory Algebras
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:27:21 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1045495641.3e50ff5947158@mail.inf.ed.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302131603490.9158-100000@fb04182.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>

Quoting Peter Lietz <lietz@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>:

> 1.) Let A be a c-pca. If I understand correctly, you say that the
> indexed poset that maps a set I to the set of maps from I to P(A),
> endowed with the usual entailment relation

Not quite - you have to define the entailment relation to match the
definition of implication (put a k in there!). The cheating way to
see that all this must work out is of course via the equivalence to a
PCA for which the standard construction works!

> 2.) Given a c-pca A, you say that A equipped with the application
> function a.b := akb is a (proper) pca. What exactly would be a
> good S combinator for the new algebra ?

Note that we can find elements if,true,false \in A satisfying
	if true x y = x, 	if false x y = y,
and furthermore we can arrange that true = k.
(I'll use "if then else" syntax below).
We want to construct S such that (in A),
     Skxkykz ~ (xkz)k(ykz), and Skxky is always defined.
Take S to be
	\lambda txuyvz. if v then (xkz)k(ykz) else false
using the usual Curry translation of lambda terms. To see that
Skxky is always defined, note that, provably, Skxky(false)z = false.

Clearly there are two versions of this result, one with the axiom
sxyz ~ (xz)(yz) and one with sxyz >~ (xz)(yz). Thomas asks whether every
PCA with >~ is equivalent to one with ~ (Gordon Plotkin has also asked me
this natural question). At the moment, the best I can do is: for any
PCA A with >~, there's a PCA B with ~ and an applicative inclusion A -> B
(giving rise to a geometric inclusion of toposes).

Cheers, John





  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-17 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-07  9:57 Realizibility " jvoosten
2003-02-07 23:43 ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-02-09 19:09   ` Peter Lietz
2003-02-12 10:58   ` Realizability " John Longley
2003-02-13 17:34     ` Peter Lietz
2003-02-17 15:27       ` John Longley [this message]
2003-02-18 11:48 jvoosten
2003-02-18 18:34 ` Peter Lietz
2003-02-20 16:44 jvoosten
2003-02-21 15:03 ` Peter Lietz

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