From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/2389 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jpdonaly@aol.com Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: Groups vs. groupoids (Pat Donaly) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 14:47:48 EDT Message-ID: <144.155b11ae.2c4454d4@aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241018626 3909 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:23:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:23:46 +0000 (UTC) To: categories@mta.ca Original-X-From: rrosebru@mta.ca Mon Jul 14 16:10:59 2003 -0300 Return-path: Envelope-to: categories-list@mta.ca Delivery-date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:10:59 -0300 Original-Received: from Majordom by mailserv.mta.ca with local (Exim 4.10) id 19c8hU-0002WK-00 for categories-list@mta.ca; Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:09:28 -0300 Original-Sender: cat-dist@mta.ca Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 17 Original-Lines: 21 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:2389 Archived-At: To all category theorists: While (partially) responding to Tom Leinster's 7/04 query regarding limit preservation, a query of my own occurred to me: On pages 6 and 7 of Alain Connes' book, "Noncommutative Geometry", he writes, "It is fashionable among mathematicians to despise groupoids and to consider that only groups have an authentic mathematical status, probably because of the pejorative suffix oid." Professor Connes later cites the groupoid of states of the hydrogen atom in order to eliminate the prejudice against groupoids, but, for group theorists, there is a more direct way: Since Frobenius and/or Burnside adopted the concept of an abstract group in order to consider general group actions and representations, group theorists have been heavily involved in groupoids, whether they liked it or not. Is it generally understood by categorists that every group action---as a comma category---is a groupoid? Pat Donaly