From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.science.mathematics.categories/1459 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Freyd Newsgroups: gmane.science.mathematics.categories Subject: More comments on Functorial injective hulls Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:12:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <200003231912.OAA11052@saul.cis.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1241017845 31347 80.91.229.2 (29 Apr 2009 15:10:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:10:45 +0000 (UTC) To: categories@mta.ca Original-X-From: rrosebru@mta.ca Fri Mar 24 04:31:45 2000 -0400 Original-Received: (from Majordom@localhost) by mailserv.mta.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28382 for categories-list; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 16:30:44 -0400 (AST) X-Authentication-Warning: mailserv.mta.ca: Majordom set sender to cat-dist@mta.ca using -f Original-Sender: cat-dist@mta.ca Precedence: bulk Original-Lines: 33 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.science.mathematics.categories:1459 Archived-At: Some comments on: >Theorem. Let H be a class of morphisms in a category C such that >1. all H-injective objects form a cogenerating class, and >2. the class of all H-essential morphisms which are epimorphic > is precisely the class of isomorphisms of C . >Then C cannot have natural H-injective hulls (i.e. they cannot >form an endofunctor together with a natural transformation from Id) >unless every object in C is H-injective. Walter wrote "We are able to compensate for the loss of mono through condition 1". Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that condition 1 implies that everything in H is a monomorphisms? x y (Let A --> B be an H-morphism and let X --> A, X --> A be such x y that X --> A --> B = X --> A --> B. If x were different from y then there would be A --> E, E an H-injective object, so that x y X --> A --> E were different from X --> A --> E. But there would have to be B --> E such that A --> E = A --> B --> E and x y X --> A --> B would have be different from X --> A --> B.) So H-morphism is a strengthening of monic and that put's us back to the situation I outlined: If the strengthening of monic is such that it becomes an iso whenever epic then there's an easy proof of the impossibility of functoriality, with or without a cogenerator.