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From: Toby Bartels <toby+categories@math.ucr.edu>
To: CATEGORIES mailing list <categories@mta.ca>
Subject: Re: Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:56:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030205205632.GC26302@math-rs-n01.ucr.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E3F849F.5080704@kestrel.edu>

Dusko Pavlovic wrote:

>Alex Simpson wrote:

>>Somebody wrote:

>>>that 1/2 + 1/4 +...+ 1/2^k > 1-e. in other words, that there is k
>>>s.t. 1/2^k < e. this is *equivalent* to markov's principle.

>>The property quoted is in fact a trivial consequence of intuitionistic
>>arithmetic alone. It has nothing to do with Markov's principle.

>for a real number e, i am pretty sure that the above is equivalent with
>markov's principle. it must be in books, but i think you can't miss the
>proof if you try.

I don't remember the original context, so I don't know who's right,
but the answer depends on what sort of real number e could be.
It can't be 0, for example, so what can it be?

* If e > 0, then work with 1/e and use the Archimedean property;
  Bishop would recognise and accept this proof.
* But if you only know that e <= 0 is false,
  then you need Markov's principle to deduce e > 0.


-- Toby





  reply	other threads:[~2003-02-05 20:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-28 20:51 Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-29  2:00 ` Toby Bartels
2003-01-29  8:35 ` Alex Simpson
2003-02-04  9:15   ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-02-05 20:56     ` Toby Bartels [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-01-28  9:44 Andrej Bauer
2003-01-27 17:41 Andrej Bauer
2003-01-28  1:50 ` Alex Simpson
2003-01-16 23:05 Generalization of Browder's F.P. Theorem? Michael Barr
2003-01-21 18:11 ` Andrej Bauer
2003-01-22 10:13   ` Cauchy completeness of Cauchy reals Martin Escardo
2003-01-22 23:33     ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-24  8:51       ` Martin Escardo
2003-01-25  2:21         ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-25 16:24           ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-27  3:57             ` Alex Simpson
2003-01-23  6:29     ` Vaughan Pratt
2003-02-04  0:47       ` Vaughan Pratt
2003-02-05 16:06         ` Prof. Peter Johnstone
2003-01-23  9:50     ` Mamuka Jibladze
2003-01-24  1:34     ` Ross Street
2003-01-24 16:56   ` Dusko Pavlovic
2003-01-24 19:48     ` Dusko Pavlovic

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