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From: "John Baez" <baez@math.ucr.edu>
To: categories@mta.ca (categories)
Subject: Re: lax crossed modules
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:42:55 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509211842.j8LIgt423375@math-cl-n03.ucr.edu> (raw)

Urs Schreiber wrote:

> [...] weak (coherent) structure 2-groups (I guess these
> are essentially "the same" as lax crossed modules?) [...]

Since not everyone will understand this remark by my esteemed
coauthor, let me elaborate.

There's a nice way to weaken the concept of crossed module.
A crossed module is just another way of looking at a group
object in Cat - otherwise known as a "categorical group" or
"strict 2-group".

But, starting with the concept of group object in Cat, one can
then weaken the usual group axioms to natural isomorphisms
and impose suitable coherence laws, obtaining the notion of
"gr-category" or "coherent 2-group".

One could then backtrack and formulate this concept so that it
resembles the concept of crossed module as closely as possible.
I guess this would deserve to be called a "weak crossed module"
or something like that.

All this stuff except the last paragraph is well-known and
summarized here:

John Baez and Aaron Lauda, Higher-dimensional algebra V: 2-Groups,
Theory and Applications of Categories 12 (2004), 423-491.
http://www.tac.mta.ca/tac/volumes/12/14/12-14abs.html

One might also seek a "lax" version of the concept of crossed
module, where "lax" is taken in the Australian sense of replacing
equations by morphisms rather than isomorphisms - "lax" as opposed
to "pseudo".  If I were forced to do this, I'd try to do it by
laxifying the concept of group object in Cat.  But, I don't see
which way all the 2-arrows should point.

Best,
jb






             reply	other threads:[~2005-09-21 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-21 18:42 John Baez [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-09-19 22:43 Ronald  Brown
2005-09-20 13:55 ` jim stasheff
2005-09-21 17:06 ` Urs Schreiber

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