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From: Thomas Streicher <streicher@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
To: Steve Vickers <s.j.vickers@cs.bham.ac.uk>
Cc: categories@mta.ca
Subject: Re: V-included categories
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 22:30:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180104213059.GB8880@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C16D1DBE-89F3-42EC-86A0-B69B5DBF5713@cs.bham.ac.uk>

Dear Steve,

I do understand your intentions. But I think one cannot mess with
foundations and in particular not with Russell's insight that there is
not a set of all sets. Most mathematicians either don't care and
consider these kind of things as a nuisance.

In type theory one definitely doesn't try to work with a type of
all types. Universes have to be taken seriously but one want's to keep
them in the background (i.e. avoid "universe cycles" as was done in LEGO
as implemented by Randy Pollack).

I personally think that all mathematics needs a foundation. ZFC set theory
with the axiom that all sets are elements of some Grothendieck universe
is a formidable foundation of mathematics.
Set theory allows one to formulate irrelevant (i.e. not iso-invariant)
questions one may want to stick to some type theory where they can't
even be formulated. But even there cannot exist a top most (all
inclusive) universe.

Happy New Year,
Thomas


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-04 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-01 13:10 Paul Blain Levy
2018-01-01 18:28 ` Paul Blain Levy
2018-01-01 21:14 ` Eduardo Julio Dubuc
     [not found] ` <e962e844-fa2d-5a56-e3e7-be308a483c12@dm.uba.ar>
2018-01-01 22:46   ` Paul Blain Levy
2018-01-02 18:40 ` rosicky
2018-01-02 19:15 ` Michael Shulman
     [not found] ` <03876a66-f7ee-a161-091c-32944a0d8556@dm.uba.ar>
2018-01-03  6:44   ` Paul Blain Levy
     [not found] ` <E1eWtjA-0006aj-48@mlist.mta.ca>
     [not found]   ` <918B0A9E-DFD0-4033-AB7A-1A8A364DB8A9@cs.bham.ac.uk>
     [not found]     ` <20180104110046.GA24344@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
2018-01-04 20:47       ` Steve Vickers
     [not found] ` <5c1ec079-335b-5609-9cb7-ae4e519f6716@dm.uba.ar>
2018-01-04 21:20   ` Thomas Streicher
     [not found] ` <C16D1DBE-89F3-42EC-86A0-B69B5DBF5713@cs.bham.ac.uk>
2018-01-04 21:30   ` Thomas Streicher [this message]
     [not found] ` <E1eWtkf-0006d1-O1@mlist.mta.ca>
2018-01-04 23:28   ` Richard Williamson

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